Which tent for winter?
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i suppose if your going to rough it with the under classes you may may as well go the full hog, i though salute your gracious foray into the "commercial" hotel world, i can only bring myself to the levels of Gleneagles
£40 for a breakfast buffet BTW, my work mate only had a boiled egg for 7 days running ( i being greedy git smuggled in a tupperware box)
Get yourself some waterproof bags, exped do some with a stopper, I must admit thats how I sort out my stuff, plus they can be used for food on site to keep the local wildlife away.
Those bags won't keep wildlife away from food! I've had mice eat through them in Glen Etive, badgers rip them open on the banks of loch Tay and rats try it in numerous bothies and only a barrell has stopped the onslaught!
a decent mat and bag is defo a good start. I use a Vango dart DS 2 man tent. its only big enough for one plus some kit and has a small porch. I've used it in -8 and real bad gales and providing you peg it out with good sturdy rock pegs you wont have a problem. The main advantage is the fact that its pop up and double skin.Ever tried putting up a tent in a gale...well you can with this and its up in a couple of mins. £50 from outdoor world and Vango stuff is guaranteed for life
The tent is only there to keep wind, rain and snow (in the UK?) from you, the secret is to use warm sleeping bags and ground insulation plus hot food before you call it a night. Go to bed warm, and you should stay warm if you have the right sleep kit and you have fuelled your body
A tent is a fantastic way of keeping wind chill factor from your body
A tent is a fantastic way of keeping wind chill factor from your body
That's where the money goes on the more expensive tents, being stronger and lighter at a given size.
That's exactly it, the tent is not meant to be a heated room, you might warm it up a bit above ambient, but it's your sleeping bag that has to do the insulating work.
Scoops
Slept in issue two man tents, 9x9s, 12x12s, issue bivi bag, hooped bivi and my Vango Mk2 CN which I have to agree can wet if you roll around but is great for 1 with all my gear!
I was probably warmest in the back of my command vehicle with the generator and heaters going full blast (on sleeping watch of course!) The hooped bivi and vango were the warmest otherwise!
I was probably warmest in the back of my command vehicle with the generator and heaters going full blast (on sleeping watch of course!) The hooped bivi and vango were the warmest otherwise!
mmmmm Maybe its not supposed to be a heated room but thats exactly what it becomes. Thats why the smaller the tent the warmer it is.. obviously because your body heat, heats it up, making it a heated room or am I missing something...someone please tell me I'm wrong lol
You're right, as I said in post #4
My point stands though, your body heat might raise the temperature a few degrees inside, it is not going to provide enough heat to keep you warm in the tent overnight without additional insulation.
So unless you're in a tipi with a wood burner or similar it's your sleeping bag and ground insulation that are going to be keeping you warm.
Scoops
Scoops, I must admit that Optimus Crux really looks the monkeys nuts, have to get myself one of those. Anychance you can point me in the right direction.
That'll be the Optimus Crux from Tengu's "Best Stove for a BOB" thread?
I guess RvOps is as good a place as anywhere to get one from.
Scoops
That'll be the Optimus Crux from Tengu's "Best Stove for a BOB" thread?
I guess RvOps is as good a place as anywhere to get one from.
Scoops
Cheers mate, i'll have a look
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Gray
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Optimus Crux
I got a similar coleman burner and a HIgear pan tried to get it all inside the pan but not quite. Looks like the crux does pack it all in.
Nick
I got a similar coleman burner and a HIgear pan tried to get it all inside the pan but not quite. Looks like the crux does pack it all in.
Nick
This company make very good, lightweight winter tents and sleeping bag systems.
Their website has lots of interesting information regarding waterproofing, air flow, moisture vapour barriers and condensation, all factors affecting tents in winter.
http://www.warmlite.com/tents_In.htm
Their website has lots of interesting information regarding waterproofing, air flow, moisture vapour barriers and condensation, all factors affecting tents in winter.
http://www.warmlite.com/tents_In.htm
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I've spent nights at minus temperatures in both bivvy (hooped) and small tent (Terra Nova Voyager) and personally I've found the tent to be warmer.
Although the tent has a larger space to heat the addition of a flysheet creates an area of still air in between inner and fly. As the air is a poor conductor of heat this acts as a kind of blanket over you, whereas with the bivvy any wind quicky convects heat away.
On a really cold day the temperature is noticably different between inner and porch and then again the outside when getting up after spending a night in the tent.
Having said all that I'm with Scoops' previous comments about insulation - I think this actually makes a greater difference than the tent or bivvy - although nothing beats a stove in a tipi to warm your cockles (until the fire goes out . . .)
Don't worry too much about condensation, if it gets reasonably cold that will freeze anyway . . . actually not sure that's a good thing
Although the tent has a larger space to heat the addition of a flysheet creates an area of still air in between inner and fly. As the air is a poor conductor of heat this acts as a kind of blanket over you, whereas with the bivvy any wind quicky convects heat away.
On a really cold day the temperature is noticably different between inner and porch and then again the outside when getting up after spending a night in the tent.
Having said all that I'm with Scoops' previous comments about insulation - I think this actually makes a greater difference than the tent or bivvy - although nothing beats a stove in a tipi to warm your cockles (until the fire goes out . . .)
Don't worry too much about condensation, if it gets reasonably cold that will freeze anyway . . . actually not sure that's a good thing
I use a Hilleberg akto in winter and a tarp in summer - unless I am on a campsite, when i tend to use the akto to avoid strange looks and visitors peering in while I'm changing my undies!
The akto is great - compact and warm, yet big enough for you kit as well. The downside of this warmth, however, is condensation. Not a problem if you're staying put as it tends to dry out during the day, even in wet weather. But it can be a problem if you are moving on straight after you get up. I tend to separate the fly from the inner and dry the fly at every opportunity during the day.
The akto is great - compact and warm, yet big enough for you kit as well. The downside of this warmth, however, is condensation. Not a problem if you're staying put as it tends to dry out during the day, even in wet weather. But it can be a problem if you are moving on straight after you get up. I tend to separate the fly from the inner and dry the fly at every opportunity during the day.
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