Veggies get a raw deal

PDA1

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It is probably worth adding that average human bodies contain about 2 kilograms (that's over 4 lbs for US readers) of bound glutamates (in protein) and about 50 grams of free glutamate ions (use in many metabolic processes essential to our existence ) . typical western diet contains about 50 grams of bound glutamate and 1 gram of free glutamate ions. SO a few milligrammes sprinkled into your food will make damn all difference(except to the perceived flavour, which is improved.

They are greatly enhanced in conjunction with ribonucleotidese.g. inosine 5′-monophosphate (IMP),. fortunately,these are also present in glutamate containing foods such as anchovy fillets, worcestershire sauce, ferrmented fish sauces and soy sauce (fermented soy). the mixture strongly enhances the umami flavour kick compared with glutamates alone.

SO there you are, free glutamates and ribonucleotides are present and essential to our existence. Using them in the small quantities used in cooking,to enhance flavour is not harmful, and probably beneficial..
 

santaman2000

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"If you shop carefully all of those are available without man made MSG, although naturally glutamates are another thing."
It matters not. Glutamates are glutamates, whether "natural" or added. The Parmasan cheese that we grate over our pasta dishes to improve their palatability is particularly high in glutamates. one other thing,put in atiny pich of glutamate and you need no salt, so your sodium intake reduces dramatically. Now Sodium ions are a proven danger. glutamates in the tiny qualtities in cooked foods are proven to have no danger. The alleged dangers are as stupid as the alleged dangers of using aluminium cooking utensils.

Whether the difference is real or not wasn't my point. The way the public perceives them is what matters. I've never had any problems with them but I've had to take an old fiance to the emergency room for shots to relieve migraines. Did MSG cause it? I doubt it, but I've seen a few other people (Barbara included) who did stop getting them when she started avoiding it.

As for any flavor benefit, I've never noticed it. It doesn't make anything more Cajun, any spicier, any smokier; in short, it just doesn't add any flavor I crave. If you pour it on a jellyfish sting it will stop said sting though.
 
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Toddy

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Human hair is gathered and sold over much of the so called 'third world'. It's commonplace for ladies to save their hair combings for a year and sell it for, and I quote the Indian lady who told me this, "We get about five dollars for a bag collected over a year, it doesn't sound a lot but five dollars goes a long way there!".
Much of it comes from temple offerings though.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/oct/28/hair-extension-global-trade-secrets

There's always waste, hair too short to be used. It just gets added to the feather waste and processed along with it. Apparantly hair is the richer source of the E920.


I didn't know that about the jellyfish Santaman2000; we learn something new every day :D

This has been a right royal ramble of a thread; kind of fun really :D

M
 

Robson Valley

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You don't know how much human hair is appreciated until you spend the time shaving the last of the raggy patches
of Chemo-poisoned hair on her head. She's still sniffling from seeing it fall out so fast it plugged the shower drain.
See the look on her face when she tries on her first wig and away with the doo-rag.

Urine is good also for jelly fish and coral stings. Pee on the victim.
You see, the MSG and urea change the active shapes of the aggrevating proteins.
Change the shape in biochemistry, you change the fuunction.

Maybe a more comprehensible example.
Heat will destroy protein fnction also.
Hard-boiled eggs don't hatch.
 

Toddy

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I watched my brother shave off what hair my youngest son had left. The chemotherapy had his hair coming out in clumps.
His Uncle had him lean over a chair back and he tidily and gently removed it in swathes.
I couldn't do it. I can handle almost anything, and I was never so thankful for my brother's kindness in my life.

My sons were born with dark hair. The chemotherapy stops all cell renewal and even the hair follicles didn't show dark agin his white skin. It was like a living skeleton walking by seeing his white skull like that, and as an archaeologist and his Mum, the horror was compounded.
He didn't wear a wig, he just put on a cap to go out.

He's alive and well though, and we were told a week before Christmas that after all these years the Doctor's don't need to see him again. They are certain that he's cured :D :D
Kind of made my Christmas after a rather miserable year really :D

Son1, has a mop of very beautiful hair that reaches down to his waist. I think the only way he'd cut it off would be to donate it to a charity that made wigs for those in need.

Surprising turns this conversation has taken, isn't it ?

M
 
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Robson Valley

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Veggies, MSG, proteins and chemo.

I always hope that by recounting the chemo experience, that others step up and help.
The postsurgical dressings and drains were things that she physically couldn't even reach.
Shaving her head had to be one of the saddest experiences that I've had, my partner of 20 years.

The fact that it does, in fact, grow back has to be one of the most useless truths in that day and time!!!

Meanwhile, my cat gets a couple of warmed up shrimp.
I will have my vegetables in a short glass with 3 ice cubes.
 

santaman2000

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I watched my brother shave off what hair my youngest son had left. The chemotherapy had his hair coming out in clumps.
His Uncle had him lean over a chair back and he tidily and gently removed it in swathes.
I couldn't do it. I can handle almost anything, and I was never so thankful for my brother's kindness in my life.

My sons were born with dark hair. The chemotherapy stops all cell renewal and even the hair follicles didn't show dark agin his white skin. It was like a living skeleton walking by seeing his white skull like that, and as an archaeologist and his Mum, the horror was compounded.
He didn't wear a wig, he just put on a cap to go out.

He's alive and well though, and we were told a week before Christmas that after all these years the Doctor's don't need to see him again. They are certain that he's cured :D :D
Kind of made my Christmas after a rather miserable year really :D

Son1, has a mop of very beautiful hair that reaches down to his waist. I think the only way he'd cut it off would be to donate it to a charity that made wigs for those in need.

Surprising turns this conversation has taken, isn't it ?

M

I'm glad to hear your son's in remission. Regarding those charities, here's the one I know of www.locksoflove.org
 

Leshy

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Glad to hear your son is OK now Toddy .

And Brian , hope it all works out for your lady .


May 2017 be the best year yet ,for you and yours people! 👍
 
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Robson Valley

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Most hairdressers and barbers know what to do with hair donations.
Personally, I think that the donation is the most honorable thing to do,
to know how happy someone will be.

Leshy, that all turned out to be just the start. There was more and more.
However, the dust has settled and she seems to have dodged a couple of bullets.
 

mrcharly

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Glad to hear your son has had the all-clear, Toddy.

When my dad had chemo, it annoyed him no end that although the hair on his head and body fell off, he had to continue shaving.
 

acheter

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It is wonderful you cook and give meat to your friends. Respect for our customs goes both ways. If you ever visit this little Island I will cook the best Goulash you have eaten.
 
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