US Modular Sleep System???

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WilliamEd

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Hi, There's a guy on ebay selling some bushcraft kit who is quite local to where I live. I am interested in the sabre 75 and sleep system the most but have no idea how good the sleep system is. He describes it as an US Modular Sleep System comprising of 2 x sleeping bags (1 x Black & 1 x Green) and a Goretex Bivi bag, which can all connect into one another to give different levels of comfort. Has anyone had any experience with these types of sleep system? Or is it overkill for British Weather?
Thanks for your help.

It is here to view: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bushcraft-Kit...ryZ36077QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
I personally have never used them but they just nest... you can mix and match the bags as well as putting one in the other. It's a very good idea.

As for the quality of kit... most genuine army kit from any nation tends to be very durable and well put together.

If he's close to you, can you pop around and have a look, see if the bags fit you etc?
 
I have had one for nearly 3 years now, and been impressed with its performance. One of the things I like about it is its flexibility. You can use the various components depending upon the conditions you will be sleeping in. I've used the lighter bag (2 season if you want to use a rating) and the gortex bivy bag during summer time and slept next to a boulder. I've used the heavier bag (I would rate this as a 3 season) with the gortex bag under a tarp during November. You can have all of the bags attached together, so you can bivouac quickly, or have them unattached.One of the things you can do is have the gortex bag completely sealed up, but I don't know how much condensation there would be inside, and I guess it would be quite claustrophobic with the material lying close to, or on your face. I suppose you could rigg it up so it is suspended away from your face.....
One of the features I like is the side zip entry so you aren't struggling to get in. I was benighted at the head of Glen Nevis last April whilst walking to a bothy. Into the bag nice and quick out of the wind for the night. It was a godsend...
I have read some reviews about the bag from other people. Generally, they have been quite good. However, some tests on the lifespan of the fillings used have been done by competetors of the manufacturer Tennier industries. These show that after a few washes the loft of the filling reduces dramatically. How valid these results are, I don't know. Remember, it was their competitors that did these tests, and a lot of American companies lost out on millions of Dollars when Tennier won the contract with the US Government. The only thing I would say is that the washing instructions on the bags themselves do stipulate that washing needs to be done with care. As you would with any synthetic filled bag, as you expect loft to be lost over its lifespan.
If you are considering buying this bag one thing to note. The picture you have shows that the gortex bag appears to be the woodland pattern camouflage. US forces changed to the pixelated BDU camouflage some time ago? Better check when the various components were manufactured. How old is this?? The date will be on when the contract was awarded to Tennier. I believe they have had 2 or 3 contracts. This should give you an indication of the age.
Finally, make sure you are also offered the compression bag as well. It is difficult to find a compression sack big enough to put all of the parts into.
Generally, the quality of the components is quite good. Would I recommend it? Yes. Hope this helps.
 
I have had one for nearly 3 years now, and been impressed with its performance. One of the things I like about it is its flexibility. You can use the various components depending upon the conditions you will be sleeping in. I've used the lighter bag (2 season if you want to use a rating) and the gortex bivy bag during summer time and slept next to a boulder. I've used the heavier bag (I would rate this as a 3 season) with the gortex bag under a tarp during November. You can have all of the bags attached together, so you can bivouac quickly, or have them unattached.One of the things you can do is have the gortex bag completely sealed up, but I don't know how much condensation there would be inside, and I guess it would be quite claustrophobic with the material lying close to, or on your face. I suppose you could rigg it up so it is suspended away from your face.....
One of the features I like is the side zip entry so you aren't struggling to get in. I was benighted at the head of Glen Nevis last April whilst walking to a bothy. Into the bag nice and quick out of the wind for the night. It was a godsend...
I have read some reviews about the bag from other people. Generally, they have been quite good. However, some tests on the lifespan of the fillings used have been done by competetors of the manufacturer Tennier industries. These show that after a few washes the loft of the filling reduces dramatically. How valid these results are, I don't know. Remember, it was their competitors that did these tests, and a lot of American companies lost out on millions of Dollars when Tennier won the contract with the US Government. The only thing I would say is that the washing instructions on the bags themselves do stipulate that washing needs to be done with care. As you would with any synthetic filled bag, as you expect loft to be lost over its lifespan.
If you are considering buying this bag one thing to note. The picture you have shows that the gortex bag appears to be the woodland pattern camouflage. US forces changed to the pixelated BDU camouflage some time ago? Better check when the various components were manufactured. How old is this?? The date will be on when the contract was awarded to Tennier. I believe they have had 2 or 3 contracts. This should give you an indication of the age.
Finally, make sure you are also offered the compression bag as well. It is difficult to find a compression sack big enough to put all of the parts into.
Generally, the quality of the components is quite good. Would I recommend it? Yes. Hope this helps.

Pretty good advice. Good first posting. Welcome!
 
I've got the Tennier modular system and really rate it. The price was right and it's great for all seasons. It's not overkill, it's rated to -40 but I highly doubt you'd get much sleep in those conditions. If it's warm out I just use the bivvi or pair it with the green bag, if it's cold the black bag/bivvi but if it's really cold I'll use both bags.

The green bag is bigger than the black winter bag and is supposed to go around the black one, but I found the larger green one inside the black works great for really cold nights. I've literally slept in puddles and didn't get wet even with the side zip.

The only complaint I have are the snaps letting cold in during the winter. This can be solved by not connecting the inside bag to the outside bag, just snap the outside bag to the bivvi. I also like to hammock without a tarp in the rain sometimes and the 3/4 length zip can be a bit tricky to get into at first. This isn't recommended with the new DD hammock with a waterproof base! If you don't use the oldstyle hammock you'll wake up in a waterbed. I found this out in South Wales last weekend... I still prefer my first DD!
 
Thank you for your comments , The reason I posted was for upto date information as a lot or reveiws are done within a week of perchase therefore not giving a true feel of the item .

Hmmmmmmm....Twodogs
 
Thank you for your comments , The reason I posted was for upto date information as a lot or reveiws are done within a week of perchase therefore not giving a true feel of the item .

Hmmmmmmm....Twodogs

Erh, sorry, I didn't read so thoroughly, I didn't realise that the original post was very old. My bad! I responded to the OP :o
 
I’ve had the system for close to two years. I don’t think you can get any better for the money in terms of durability and versatility. The system comes with a green patrol bag, a black cold weather bag, a Goretex bivi, and a stuff sack.
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The price you pay is the weight and size, most of which comes from the black cold weather bag. I usually use the bivi and green patrol bag, unless I’m going out in winter conditions. (I live in NY) I’m not sure exactly what the temperature is like in the UK, but where I am it works great. If you are carrying just the bivi and patrol bag, they can both fit into a medium stuff sack, such as Sea to Summit. I carry the bag inside the bivi, just in case I get wet.

It’s a no nonsense system. It is designed for utility, not comfort. The two bags and the bivi not only fit together, they have attachment points, so they will not slide around on you during the night. The bags are surprisingly warm, even when damp. Both bags have draft tubes around the zippers, and the black bag has an additional one by the neck. The bivi is very simple, no mosquito nets, bars, etc, but will keep you dry. It’s made out of heavy Goretex, so it will not rip. I’ve used it in heavy rain without any problem.

Because of the versatility it’s the only sleeping system I use. You can find a combination for any temperature. When buying however, make sure that each item has a serial number on it.
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If it does not, then it is a cheap knockoff. There are plenty of those around for a lot less. The genuine ones cost about $250-$300.

Pros: great versatility, reasonable price and very durable.
Cons: it is heavy and bulky when compared to down bags, but comparable to synthetic bags of the same price range.
Buy/Don’t buy: Buy
 
Hi!

I have the Modular Sleep system to, and i am wondering how you carry it on/in your backpack?

I´m actually in the market for a new backpack, and are looking on the Berghaus Vulcan. Anyone know if I could compress the system and then put it in the main compartment? it will eat alot of the room, but I figure I got around 50 liters left plus the two side pockets, leaving me of 70liters to other stuff...

I am also thinking of an external frame backpack, with 1/3 of the frame free so I could attach the sleepingbag system there, under the sack that would be around 65liters...I have seen kelty backpack, and also an older model from Haglofs, Haglofs Alaska, but that particular bag dosent seem to be made any more...

Any help or suggestion to my problem are more than welcome!

/Johan
 
i have the same system, and love it, its not the lightest in the world, but very very versitile, i would not change mine, i love it.
 
Hi!

I have the Modular Sleep system to, and i am wondering how you carry it on/in your backpack?

I´m actually in the market for a new backpack, and are looking on the Berghaus Vulcan. Anyone know if I could compress the system and then put it in the main compartment? it will eat alot of the room, but I figure I got around 50 liters left plus the two side pockets, leaving me of 70liters to other stuff...

I am also thinking of an external frame backpack, with 1/3 of the frame free so I could attach the sleepingbag system there, under the sack that would be around 65liters...I have seen kelty backpack, and also an older model from Haglofs, Haglofs Alaska, but that particular bag dosent seem to be made any more...

Any help or suggestion to my problem are more than welcome!

/Johan

Hello Johan. I've got an MSS and a Berghaus Cyclops. It will fit in the main compartment and leave some room for other stuff. You can also try to find an MSS carry system (scroll down) which is a bag of it's own that can be strapped to the Vulcan leaving no end of space for other stuff. Hope this helps...
 
I use a Vulcan and there is no problems putting the MSS in. I don't use the compression sack just spin it and ram it in the bottom of the bag. There again i tend only to use the green one, slightly more bulky with the black one though.

Nice to hear from you again Sasquatch.


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Hello Johan. I've got an MSS and a Berghaus Cyclops. It will fit in the main compartment and leave some room for other stuff. You can also try to find an MSS carry system (scroll down) which is a bag of it's own that can be strapped to the Vulcan leaving no end of space for other stuff. Hope this helps...


Hi!

Thanks for he answer! It helps alot! I really like the Vulcan and was hoping that it would fit, will probably get one of those MSS carry system!

/Johan
 

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