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[Dingo]

No, I know exactly what you mean! The Scottish guys used to do it when I was in the Army, they have a very fierce pride in their country and so they should. Unfortunately, people misunderstand nationality and country of birth. They're two different things altogether! Look at the front of your passport,

the government should sort it really, that would mean getting rid of the scottish parliment, Scottish national party and the welsh assembly, i think that would be great but cant quite se it happening mate, if your english and you say this stuff your frowned upon, but if the scots and the welsh say it, its just national pride

never mind, I'm English and proud anyway, but if everyone else is ok with british so am i.

Adam.

 

[spamel]

That's always bothered me. Five Nations Rugby, or 7 or however many are involved these days, is made up of england, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and then a bunch of foreigners. Doesn't seem fair, does it? And we still don't win! Why don't we have a combined team, British? We do for rugby world cup.

 

[hedgepig]

Deary me, what a confused thread this has become. May I suggest it reverts to a discussion about the Union Flag?

 

[spamel]

Deary me, what a confused thread this has become. May I suggest it reverts to a discussion about the Union Flag?

There's not much left to say on the matter!

 

[weaver]

Is this how it should be?

 

[hedgepig]

Is this how it should be?

Yep, that's the one!

 

[Staghound]

That's always bothered me. Five Nations Rugby, or 7 or however many are involved these days, is made up of england, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and then a bunch of foreigners. Doesn't seem fair, does it? And we still don't win! Why don't we have a combined team, British? We do for rugby world cup.

Sorry for going back OT, but I can't ignore that. Unless I've lost the plot entirely I'm fairly sure that I remember that WE did win the Six Nations this year. :twak:

 

[Steve27752]

Is this how it should be?

Tony, If you replaced the one in the avatar section with this one, it would solve the problem.

 

[spamel]

Sorry for going back OT, but I can't ignore that. Unless I've lost the plot entirely I'm fairly sure that I remember that WE did win the Six Nations this year. :twak:

Really? I'm not the sporting type if you haven't guessed already! I quite like womens' beach volleyball, but that's for a whole other reason dude!

 

[dommyracer]

Well, they should as they are British. Scottish isn't a nationality, is it? Nor is being Welsh, Irish or English.

I'm pretty sure that those that hail from the Republic of Ireland might have something to say about that.

 

[spamel]

I'm pretty sure that those that hail from the Republic of Ireland might have something to say about that.

Granted! I meant Northern Irish!

 

[Toddy]

Spam, I'm Scottish, and I always have been. The British bit is just officialdom, and even there I'm a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, even got the specially chipped brand spanking new passport to prove it. When I filled in the forms for the passport my Country of birth is Scotland, and if I could have had a Scottish one, I would.

We diverge from too many of the things and institutions that are so iconically British to feel wholeheartedly so.
Education, Law, Religion, Social Issues, Monarchy, Government, Land Issues ............all different.

This divergence is not disrespect, especially for the armed services, but the differences are very real.

This topic has raised it's head over the past few days and today I've asked my sons and six other folks aged 20 - 65, "What nationality are you ?", only the eldest man replied "Both." everyone else said, "Scottish"

The times they are a changing...........

cheers,
Toddy

 

[scanker]

That's always bothered me. Five Nations Rugby, or 7 or however many are involved these days, is made up of england, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and then a bunch of foreigners. Doesn't seem fair, does it? And we still don't win! Why don't we have a combined team, British? We do for rugby world cup.

No we don't. They all play individually. Are you thinking of the British and Irish Lions?

I agree we should get off the subject of rugby..........I support Scotland!