Tree ID - possible rowan?

[spandit]

Certainly one of the ash family

 

[Nice65]

Reminds me more of Rhus typhina. That fleshy green stem doesn't look right for Ash or Sorbus species.

 

[spandit]

Interesting... we'll see what happens as it matures. Only discovered it the other day in a hedgerow

 

[Goatboy]

Reminds me more of Rhus typhina. That fleshy green stem doesn't look right for Ash or Sorbus species.

Aye but mind that's the fresh new growth sprouting out so it'll be greener to begin with.

Any chance of a pic of the trunk? I think it is an ash/rowan, difficult to say from the angle. Ash tend to be latter getting their leaves as of the UK trees their the last to get and first to loose their leaves - in general.

Rowan / Ash differences

• Rowan leaves grow on alternate pairs on the twig, where ash leaves are opposite each other
• Rowan trees generally only grow to around 10 metres as opposed to the 40 metres ash can climb to
• bark is purplish as opposed to the ash's greenish tint
• where the ash has single winged seeds in bunches rowan has berries which ripen to a red colour.

Couple of links for you: -
http://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/learn/british-trees/native-trees/
http://www.forestry.gov.uk/treenametrail

 

[Mesquite]

Reminds me more of Rhus typhina. That fleshy green stem doesn't look right for Ash or Sorbus species.

That's what I thought as well when I saw the picture.

Got any shots of the bark and tree itself?

 

[British Red]

Looks bob on for an emerging Rowan leaf - certainly not an ash - I would say sorbus

This is an emerging Rowan leaf

 

[Nice65]

Looks bob on for an emerging Rowan leaf - certainly not an ash - I would say sorbus

This is an emerging Rowan leaf

You're not wrong when I see that pic. Although Rhus root suckers freely, I've never seen it struggle out of a hedgerow unless there are others in a neighbouring garden.

More pics needed, or another few weeks to develop fully. The most common Rhus has furry young branches, a Sorbus will tend to be smooth and grey, even a bit silvery.

 

[spandit]

I'll get a photo of the bark later

 

[British Red]

I can nip up the end and take comparative pictures of the stags horn sumac and mountain ash if it helps to shed some light....I'm a bit farther North than Spandit of course ..

 

[ozzy1977]

Does look like rowan to me too.

 

[treadlightly]

The serrated edges point to Rowan. A pic of the trunk would be very helpful

 

[Joonsy]

if it helps here is a photo of the trunk of the rowan/mountain ash in my garden, mine is not yet in leaf, buds just opening (sorry if quality of pic is poor) -- PS, it is a little greyer in colour than photo shows.

 

[treadlightly]

Deleted answer as I thought that trunk belonged to the leaf you showed earlier. I should read posts before replying..

 

[spandit]

As promised, here's one of the trunk:

And another one of the leaves:

 

[British Red]

Thats not a Rhus - I would say Sorbus for sure

 

[spandit]

Thats not a Rhus - I would say Sorbus for sure

I didn't think we had the right soil for it but there you go. Hopefully it will sucker and/or produce berries which I can use to propagate it

 

[British Red]

It may be another sorbus - but most likely Rowan. I have three varieties here and they aren't easy to tell apart as the leaves open.

 

[Uilleachan]

Looks like rowan to me

 

[spandit]

Found a couple more.

Interestingly, they're all growing around the base of oak trees. Also saw a snake as well (or possibly slow worm) but it slithered into a hole before I could take a decent shot