Trapping question

[demented dale]

I read a link recently showing a way of catching birds. The method employed threading dried fruit all along a fishing line. A pheasant, for example, comes along and eats all the fruit and the string and gets caught up and ends up in the pot. I have never heard of this before and I have now lost the link. I have looked and can't find any info on it. So my question is; Does anyone on here know anything about anything like that. Thanks. Dale x

 

[Mesquite]

It's an old poachers trick for catching birds. That and using baited fishing hooks on a line.

 

[TeeDee]

I'd want to see this one working to know it works. I have doubts

 

[demented dale]

It's an old poachers trick for catching birds. That and using baited fishing hooks on a line.

Hooks I know about but the link said that the bird just gets caught up. I have no idea how that works and wish I had bookmarked it. x

 

[British Red]

I read a link recently showing a way of catching birds. The method employed threading dried fruit all along a fishing line. A pheasant, for example, comes along and eats all the fruit and the string and gets caught up and ends up in the pot. I have never heard of this before and I have now lost the link. I have looked and can't find any info on it. So my question is; Does anyone on here know anything about anything like that. Thanks. Dale x

I do.It was horsehair once. It works & it's unnecessarily cruel. The bait passes down the throat into the stomach and intestine. The only way to bolt is to pull out it's own intestines. Like bird lime, if you are starving, I get it. But a pheasant hasn't the brains of a retarded mouse. They are easy to catch & dispatch more humanely.

 

[demented dale]

I do.It was horsehair once. It works & it's unnecessarily cruel. The bait passes down the throat into the stomach and intestine. The only way to bolt is to pull out it's own intestines. Like bird lime, if you are starving, I get it. But a pheasant hasn't the brains of a retarded mouse. They are easy to catch & dispatch more humanely.

interesting. What is bird lime?

 

[C_Claycomb]

interesting. What is bird lime?

Birdlime - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[demented dale]

I found it. Bird Lime.

Birdlime - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thats not nice. x

 

[Broch]

Most trapping is 'not nice' TBH

 

[Wildgoose]

I read about the horse hair version in a book of old poachers tricks. Even if the end becomes untethered the bird exhausts itself trying to get the hair out of its throat/crop.

As BR says there are easier and quicker ways to catch one.

 

[British Red]

I found it. Bird Lime.

Birdlime - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thats not nice. x

It's not, but nor is starvation. I find that, for me, it's important not to judge people in desperate situations from my own relatively comfortable position. I like understanding how traps work, snares, deadfalls, hold traps, kill traps. Adhesive traps for example (like bird lime) were legal on rodents until July this year. They are still legal against insects. Do insects suffer less than birds or mammals?

 

[Wildgoose]

Didn’t realise the rodent ones were finally made illegal

A pub I worked in 20 odd years ago used them for mice. The mice would dislocate their limbs in an attempt to escape them

 

[demented dale]

Me neither. I would do whatever it takes to live in a survival situation though. and I make a note of all and every method. I dont like suffering by anything. A clean quick kill is always preferred. I would figure it would be be quite hard to catch stuff with that method anyway. I just read what it takes to process the 'glue' and it is simply not practical in a survival situation

 

[British Red]

Didn’t realise the rodent ones were finally made illegal

A pub I worked in 20 odd years ago used them for mice. The mice would dislocate their limbs in an attempt to escape them

It's actually a little more nuanced. They are still legal for qualified paid professionals under tight criteria. The legalities are constantly evolving. Bromadiolone and difenacoum (SGAR) rat poisons were banned for outdoor use in July too. Cholecalciferol is now the preferred outdoor rodenticide for professionals. 3 years ago when BASF first brought it out, I had to take a separate qualification just to buy it. Now it's more widespread. It does need a totally different baiting approach though.

 

[Kepis]

Cholecalciferol is now the preferred outdoor rodenticide for professionals.

Well you learn something new every day, i take Cholecalciferol aka Vitamin D3 on prescription.

 

[British Red]

Well you learn something new every day, i take Cholecalciferol aka Vitamin D3 on prescription.

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