Hmmm... which begs the question, once you have removed all the fancy stuff, what's the difference between an Arran 9 and a Tundra 8? Apart from the colour and about £350 quid that is.
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Hmmm... which begs the question, once you have removed all the fancy stuff, what's the difference between an Arran 9 and a Tundra 8? Apart from the colour and about £350 quid that is.
Yes, and at the end of the day "you pays your money..."
If I thought the Tundra 8 was as good as the Varrie, I'd buy it, but I think the Varrie is better, and in a couple of years I wont care about the £700 difference (ouch that hurts to say out loud!).
Hmmm... which begs the question, once you have removed all the fancy stuff, what's the difference between an Arran 9 and a Tundra 8? Apart from the colour and about £350 quid that is.
I thought one was £300 and the other £999!
I think what I'd really like is a tundra 8...
£300
and a tentipi inner tent...
£500
Total £800
A tentip varrie 9 is 5m in dia and 3.5m high, so the inner tent for it should fit the tundra 8 which is 5m dia by 3.5m high. No?
£300
and a tentipi inner tent...
£500
Total £800
A tentip varrie 9 is 5m in dia and 3.5m high, so the inner tent for it should fit the tundra 8 which is 5m dia by 3.5m high. No?
That would be the varrie 9, the arran 9 is cheaper....
http://www.stunningtents.co.uk/Sales/Arran_Tentipi.asp
Personally I wouldn't expect them to fit - the Bison's have more sides to them (16?) Tentipis are octagonal, so the seams may not line up (unless you're very lucky)
My Tentipi catalogue shows the Arran/Varrie to be 5.3x3.1 which may add to the difficulties.
I guess the only way to know would be to get a Tundra and take it to a Tentipi dealer to try it.
If it were me though (and this is what I'm doing) I'd get a canvas outer and not bother with an inner. The tentipi floor and outer fit together pretty snugly.
Another inner option - Helsport at Tamarack outdoors do cheaper inners than the Tentipi ones. Sizes are a bit in-between though - 4.7x3 and 5.5x3.5 are the outer sizes.
Prices are roughly £180 for the inner and £100 for the floor (you need both).
All their outers are nylon though.
My Tentipi catalogue shows the Arran/Varrie to be 5.3x3.1 which may add to the difficulties.
I guess the only way to know would be to get a Tundra and take it to a Tentipi dealer to try it.
If it were me though (and this is what I'm doing) I'd get a canvas outer and not bother with an inner. The tentipi floor and outer fit together pretty snugly.
Another inner option - Helsport at Tamarack outdoors do cheaper inners than the Tentipi ones. Sizes are a bit in-between though - 4.7x3 and 5.5x3.5 are the outer sizes.
Prices are roughly £180 for the inner and £100 for the floor (you need both).
All their outers are nylon though.
Yes, I believe so. If I had a tentipi, I would just get the floor as well and not bother with the inner. They are nice no question, but £700 more than a Bison nice?
I'm no cheapskate, but that is a lot of extra money. I'm just trying to figure out what you actually get for it?
Hmmm... which begs the question, once you have removed all the fancy stuff, what's the difference between an Arran 9 and a Tundra 8? Apart from the colour and about £350 quid that is.
effing annoying webbing all over the floor... silly window... darker colour... annoying hat connecting lines.
It is a few hundred quid saving... I guess it comes down to how much you mind the annoying bits - certainly there are no show stoppers.
Yeah, I think the low down ventilation system in a Varrie is more inherrantly suitable for a stove too. You gotta have airflow even with a chimnea'd stove - I'm not sure what solution the tundra has to that, but the varrie looks good...
every tipi I have seen you can just lift the skirt up a little (oo-err!) to give you more airflow... even if it doesn't have a fancy pulley system.
When I want my skirt lifted I just do it and wedge something under it to keep it up
p.s. sorry for friday afternoon humour.
When I want my skirt lifted I just do it and wedge something under it to keep it up
p.s. sorry for friday afternoon humour.
every tipi I have seen you can just lift the skirt up a little (oo-err!) to give you more airflow... even if it doesn't have a fancy pulley system.
When I want my skirt lifted I just do it and wedge something under it to keep it up
p.s. for friday afternoon humour.
fnar, fnar.
But the tentipi groundsheet attaches to the skirt all round I think. The vents let you regulate the airflow without messing with that seal and they are covered with mossie net too.
Actually, the webbing straps for the pegs also have toggles for the floor and those are the only points it attaches. it's very easy to vent.
EdS
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Interesting - I never saw a floor in one, but I assumed they toggled into the outer.
It was said that you can wrap the bottom of the outer under the floor - how does that work?
I have a Britsh Army Bell Tent. have been using it year round for about 10 years now, its great.
In the summer you can roll up the sides, in the winter its lovely and warm and it has a hole for a stove.
The only downside is that it came with plastic pegs that were rubbish.
See link http://www.tentsplus.co.uk/10abip.htm
In the summer you can roll up the sides, in the winter its lovely and warm and it has a hole for a stove.
The only downside is that it came with plastic pegs that were rubbish.
See link http://www.tentsplus.co.uk/10abip.htm
Yeah - I think that's a fancy way of saying "you can poke the skirty bit under the floor if you like"
ahhh, gotcha.
So then the only real difference is the webbing on the floor, the colour and the window ...and £700.
Yeah - I said there were no show stoppers didn't I
£700 over 10 years of use isn't a lot of money though when the same old niggles tick you off time after time... you need to please yourself and to hell with the wallet. especially if this is going to provide years of service.
get what you want and not what you are forced to.
£700 over 10 years of use isn't a lot of money though when the same old niggles tick you off time after time... you need to please yourself and to hell with the wallet. especially if this is going to provide years of service.
get what you want and not what you are forced to.
I agree with that Squidders - Our last tent lasted 14 years of 2 or 3 weeks a year use. It's still going strong, but we now have 2 children so it's too small. I either camp in the van or in a hammock.
BTW - I'm just trying to plough through the only group test I've ever seen of Lavvu. The site is in norwegian so I'm using http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml to traslate (which it does poorly).
This is the link to all the tents - THESE ARE ALL NYLON/SYNTHETIC VERSIONS THOUGH.
There's the vagge, the varrie light, the venor, helsport, frisport, bison tinde, etc.
http://www.villmarksliv.no/sok/index.jsp
BTW - I'm just trying to plough through the only group test I've ever seen of Lavvu. The site is in norwegian so I'm using http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml to traslate (which it does poorly).
This is the link to all the tents - THESE ARE ALL NYLON/SYNTHETIC VERSIONS THOUGH.
There's the vagge, the varrie light, the venor, helsport, frisport, bison tinde, etc.
http://www.villmarksliv.no/sok/index.jsp
This looks like the summary page, but it's hard work. If anyone finds a better Norwegian translator, let me know!
http://www.villmarksliv.no/tester/friluftsutstyr/article138128.ece
http://www.villmarksliv.no/tester/friluftsutstyr/article138128.ece
