The Great Kilt

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' How much cloth, How wide'

Really rather subjective. You'll need less if your dress size is a 10, than you would if its a 20.. 30% less on average. You're not giving us much to work with Tengu.
 
I am not a Scot and everone seems to have some kind of Scottish Heritage but me.

(am busy making my own)

What do they say about Jock Tamsons bairns? (He has so many and so varied he wont notice another one).
Not being a Scot may have something to do with the lack of Scottish heritage. Not your fault at all lass. But also not something you can fix with a kilt. Half of my family come from Lewis, Scottish as they come... Would i dare wear a kilt on a visit? Hell no. I'd be ostracized as a pretender. You either are, or you aren't. Just find out whether the area you are are mainly Rangers or Celtic fans,( or others, but less likely) and buy that jersey. You'll be reet.
 
I would disagree.

There are far more people of Scottish heritage outside Scotland, they live all over the world.

I heard there are more Gaelic speakers in India than Scotland.

Im not doing anything cultrural with this; thought it might be good to try, -hence tweed. (I dont like tartan, too garish).

I dont know if they had great kilts in the Iron Age.

Oh, BTW, Im wearing leggings underneath, in case anyones afraid of my delicate pale legs...
 
Good on you Tengu! Wear what you want. The kilt long predates any Scottish border.

There is an old Trivial Pursuits question:
Which is the odd one out and why?

Bagpipes
The kilt
Chicken Tikka Masala
Whisky
Porridge.

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What’s wrong with wearing Loud Macleod?
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CTM is Scottish.

The others are not.

Is that Cornish tartan? A bit OTT

But I have seen a version that swaps the yellow for a light olive and that is nicer.
 
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CTM is Scottish.

The others are not.

Is that Cornish tartan? A bit OTT

But I have seen a version that swaps the yellow for a light olive and that is nicer.

No, that's MacLeod. The earlier the tartan the fewer the colours.

Their shirts weren't white either, they were saffron coloured.
 
@Tengu
I suspect that the tartan fabric is made in Cornwall rather that it being a Cornish pattern.

The colour of a plaid was more a reflection of the plants that grew locally to the clans location rather than any specific identifier.
The allocation of colours and patterns to specific clans is late Georgian or Victorian in origin. Vestiarium Scoticum (catalogue of tartans) may, just may have originated earlier

Were I to wear a kilt it would be a great kilt in a plain saffron colour. If I were showing off I’d have a green brocade jacket to go with it.

I may well be French of French but all I’ve inherited is the clan debts!!!
 
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I suspect that the tartan fabric is made in Cornwall rather that it being a Cornish pattern.
Nah, it is indeed "Cornish tartan". A fairly recent invention (1960s?) to part the foolish from more of their money, as far as I can tell.

Tengu, you've seen the videos on YouTube by Fandabi Dozi on the Great Kilt, I assume?
 
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Nay, that is Cornish Tartan...Look how the black and white forms a Pirans cross?

Designed in the 1980s, I recall.

But dont wear it as a kilt, then folk will know you are a Nationalist.

(We have some flakey folk in Kernow...but these days the Council employ them to lecture the school kiddies about Cornish Identity...)

Folk get a scarf and tie it on the dog for Pirans day.

(You beat me, Grainweevil...)

No?
 
@Tengu
I suspect that the tartan fabric is made in Cornwall rather that it being a Cornish pattern.

The colour of a plaid was more a reflection of the plants that grew locally to the clans location rather than any specific identifier.
The allocation of colours and patterns to specific clans is late Georgian or Victorian in origin. Vestiarium Scoticum (catalogue of tartans) may, just may have originated earlier

Were I to wear a kilt it would be a great kilt in a plain saffron colour. If I were showing off I’d have a green brocade jacket to go with it.

I may well be French of French but all I’ve inherited is the clan debts!!!

For years I did a lot of natural dyeing as I worked around Scotland. I got good at telling what colour came from where. I wasn't just the plants, it was the local water sources too.
Even doing all those dyes and knowing what I'd gathered, when and where, there was still some commonality to the colours, but not to the tone and shade of the colours.
I reckon in the past the locals would look at someone else's cloth and just think, "Well, it's not ours".

My own Lanarkshire gives bright sharp colours for most things, but head out West and there's a subtle difference, and in much of Argyll I get almost darker tones. Perthshire is muted, Fife is light....
 
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The yellow / gold on the Cornish tartan represents the ancient Cornish kings. The red represents the red bill and feet of the Cornish Chough. The blue represents the sea and the black and white is St Piran's flag.
There is also a more muted Cornish hunting tartan.
 
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For years I did a lot of natural dyeing as I worked around Scotland. I got good at telling what colour came from where. I wasn't just the plants, it was the local water sources too.
Even doing all those dyes and knowing what I'd gathered, when and where, there was still some commonality to the colours, but not to the tone and shade of the colours.
I reckon in the past the locals would look at someone else's cloth and just think, "Well, it's not ours".

My own Lanarkshire gives bright sharp colours for most things, but head out West and there's a subtle difference, and in much of Argyll I get almost darker tones. Perthshire is muted, Fife is light....
I’ve read that this indeed is the reason behind tartan colours - nothing to do with clans but to do with locally available dyes. That this coincided with clan areas was coincidental.
 
There’s a YouTube channel that covers a fair amount of this sort of thing, is interesting, he covers kilts etc.
Link to a randomly chosen video from the channel-
 

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