Surname Origins

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Telfer.. interesting and would we know any idea of the etymological reasoning for that ? If i look at the word it sounds more germanic so maybe its a corruption of something?
"Cut iron" from French taille fer, according to Wikipedia.
 
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Ah, two names I always laugh at. WOODHOUSE.

Modernisation of `Wodewose` Co incidentaly last night I was looking at an article on church carving of wildmen; they are mostly in Suffolk for some reason where they are oddly common.

(The other name is GOLDWATER...think about it).

My own name is Davies...I am told this is the spelling they always use in Cornwall.

Davis is Welsh.

(Lots of exceptions to that rule).
 
In Wales we have fewer 'trade' associations to names. I know you specifically asked about English names, but I thought the comparison of interest.

Until 1542, and Henry VIII, Wales used a patronymic system where a child took on the first name of their father. So Sion ap Huw ap Ivan ... meaning John, son of Hugh, son of Ivan at infinitum. When Henry decided every one should have a permanent family name it just got shortened (and often anglicised) to Huw's son = Hughes; Sion's son = Jones, Ivan's son = Evans etc.

There are names associated with feats or characteristics - Moore from mawr meaning great; Llewellyn meaning 'like a lion'; Morgan from morcant (possibly) meaning 'sea captain'. But I don't know of any based on saer (carpenter) or pobydd (baker) etc.
 
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In Wales we have fewer 'trade' associations to names. I know you specifically asked about English names, but I thought the comparison of interest.

Until 1542, and Henry VIII, Wales used a patronymic system where a child took on the first name of their father. So Sion ap Huw ap Ivan ... meaning John, son of Hugh, son of Ivan at infinitum. When Henry decided every one should have a permanent family name it just got shortened (and often anglicised) to Huw's son = Hughes; Sion's son = Jones, Ivan's son = Evans etc.

There are names associated with feats or characteristics - Moore from mawr meaning great; Llewellyn meaning 'like a lion'; Morgan from morcant (possibly) meaning 'sea captain'. But I don't know of any based on saer (carpenter) or pobydd (baker) etc.
I guess by English - I meant the language , but more also making an assumption the same name-trade connection must also occur in other non English speaking countries the world over. :)
 
but more also making an assumption the same name-trade connection must also occur in other non English speaking countries the world over.
Not really, very very few in Finnish, the only ones that comes to my mind at short notice is "rautio" and "seppä" both meaning a blacksmith, another one is "suutari" meaning a cobbler. Others probably exist but rare.

From Carelia a lot of bird and animal names.
 
I know that the German name of Zimmerman is a trade name (basically its Carpenter).
A lot of UK names are the same as places.

'What's yer name and where do you come from?'
Dave from Threlkeld.

Written into the work registry as Dave Threlkeld.

I guess anyway.
 
I do wonder if it may be related to that of someone that simply digs out clay and prepares it for a potter? Pretty sure there would be a logistical chain of processes and people to any end product.
You still wonder if my last name comes from something to do with clay, after I have stated that it comes from an Americanisation of a German name…which has nothing to do with clay? How strange.
 
Apparently Stone is an old Scandinavian name ... meaning 'stone'. I always thought it meant 'comes from the town'

I blame AI searches for all such confusions
 
Barker, like Tanner, someone who tans hides (oak bark)

Traditional craft pedant mode on- sharing for interest: A barker stripped oak tress of bark using barking irons and various other tools, to supply tanners as you say. But an entirely independant trade.



Pitman is a classic- the bloke on the lower end of a pitsaw who spent their life ripping timber. The chap on top was the 'top sawyer', or just 'sawyer'- the better skilled and paid job as he steered the saw. Horrible work having to lift the saw though, the pitman had a better deal despite the showers of sawdust.

There's a myth that this is where the phrase 'top dog' and 'underdog' came from, no points, do not pass go...
 
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Chapman and Mercer are two trade names too. Can you guess their trade?

The surname Latimer I believe is a trade name but I've never managed to interpret that one. Most you can guess of course.
 
Shame in a way it's only the male dominated trades which were represented for obvious reasons. No *cough* Seamstress for example.

Hold my beer...

...but first...
Brewster, female who brewed beer
Brewer, male who brewed beer.

Now, for your example....
Sewter
This most interesting surname is an English occupational name for a tailor, a seamstress or for one who sews, from the Medieval English "Soustere, Sewester, Sowester", from the old English "Seowian", to sew.

Also.

Webster. from someone who weaves.

the suffix "ster" originally denoted feminine, but by the time surnames were formed it was applied to both...

Sangster = singer (also a name)
Baxter = female baker


When you say it was "only" the male dominated trades that were represented for "obvious reasons", what reason do you consider the most obvious? I can think of three or four reasons which might all be valid. How many female dominated trades were there in the 14th century?
 
My surname Arnold is an ancient one, it is a combination of the Germanic words for eagle and power, lamentation of the women notwithstanding.
 

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