Stove fuel

[weekender]

Mmmm made a poor choice bought some BBQ lighter fluid thinking it might be good for either the Trangia or or something just tried it out in my old red bull stove and well it's not very good glad I didn't put it in the Trangia burner.......now what do I do with it apart from use it on the BBQ??
Would it be ok in my MSR Whisperlite !??


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[tom.moran]

use iot to light your bbq tbh, i use bio-ethanol in my stoves

 

[petrochemicals]

Yup, average grade paraffin, ie poor filter quality, but no dye in it. Lamp oil was the best paraffin I found.

 

[ozzy1977]

Paraffin wont work in an alcohol stove, it may work in a lamp though

 

[cranmere]

I wouldn't put it into my Nova which is a multi-fuel stove and is pretty good at burning most things. I wouldn't trust it not to gum up the pipes and jets and whilst my stove is fully serviceable it's a nuisance to have to do so. I wouldn't trust the fuel to burn clean or evenly either.

I'd use it to light the barbecue.

 

[weekender]

Ta that's pretty much what I thought
So what's the stuff to look for at B&Q then??


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[Damascus]

The best stuff is meths for the trangia, whisper lite, unleaded or panel wipe but if you are feeling generous Coleman fuel!

 

[dave89]

use iot to light your bbq tbh, i use bio-ethanol in my stoves

^^^^This is the stuff

 

[petrochemicals]

[QUOTE=cranmere;1531525]I wouldn't put it into my Nova which is a multi-fuel stove and is pretty good at burning most things. I wouldn't trust it not to gum up the pipes and jets and whilst my stove is fully serviceable it's a nuisance to have to do so. I wouldn't trust the fuel to burn clean or evenly either.

I'd use it to light the barbecue.[/QUOTE]

I would worry more about parrafin with dye, deisel with detergent in it before anything in barbecue lighter fluid. But then again there is barbecue lighter fluid and barbecue lighter fluid, depends how well it is refined. Surgical spirits alcohol has oil added, meths has the dye, and bioethanol I believe has detergent added.if only there where somewhere you could buy pure unadulterated alcohol.

 

[weekender]

The best stuff is meths for the trangia, whisper lite, unleaded or panel wipe but if you are feeling generous Coleman fuel!

That's my thoughts after seeing this stuff burn, I thought I had picked up the same stuff as people get from B&Q but it seems not...
For the amount of use they all get then it's not too much of a hardship or costly to get the right fuel with a bit of shopping around I think and probably safer 😉👍


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[santaman2000]

Sell it. Turn it in as haz waste. Whatever.

I don't use it to light the BBQ; it's toxic. Instead use old newspaper, semi-soaked in old frying oil, under one of these:



Oily newspaper in the bottom chamber, charcoal in the top. once the charcoal's red hot, pour in into the BBQ grill.

 

[tom.moran]

Go out doors do bio ethanol fairly cheaply

 

[weekender]

Ok and bio ethanol is ok in a trangia ? Or msr ??


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[PDA1]

Bio ethanol is just an eco friendly name for denatured alcohol. Meths (methylated spirits) is an archaic name for denatured alcohol, because they used to denature the alcohol by adding nearly 5% methanol. Nowadays the ethyl alcohol is denatured by adding about 5% of other alcohols and ketones plus a tiny amount of an extremely bitter tasting compound so that you will discouraged from drinking it. Denatured alcohol is the type of fuel for which the Trangia is designed. The MSR stoves use Coleman fuel or equivalent such as petrol/gasoline/ panel wipe. The B&Q lighter fluid is probably of this type, but look at the label, the contents will be stated. Santaman's suggestion of using a chimney starter is probably by far the best method of getting a charcoal grill started.

 

[tom.moran]

Surely the bio bit comes from how it's produced?

 

[weekender]

Thanks for clearing that up I had so many people speak of other fuels....👍


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[rik_uk3]

Ok and bio ethanol is ok in a trangia ? Or msr ??


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Ethanol/meths for the Trangia not the MSR. Methanol burns fine in the Trangia too. Most BBQ fuel is paraffin (certainly Wilko brand and the fuel sold in B&M) and in the past have bought loads of it when reduced in Wilkinsons. Burns very well in old Primus stoves and my Nova's and Omnifuels.

 

[rik_uk3]

Yup, average grade paraffin, ie poor filter quality, but no dye in it. Lamp oil was the best paraffin I found.

Lamp oil is great in wick lamps but I found it clogged up Tilley/Vapalux pressure lanterns.

 

[PDA1]

Surely the bio bit comes from how it's produced?

Strictly correct. However, Ethanol has been produced by the same fermentation and distillation processes for,what, thousands of years. Calling it "Bio Ethanol" is just marketing speak to give it a bit of cache in the current time. Sounds so much more responsible than "denatured alcohol". I've read some of the guff on Bio Ethanol sites, and take it from one who spent a good deal of his professional life writing advertising copy, this is what we call polishing a turd.

 

[tom.moran]

Lol fair enough