stove and pot combination for week at a time

[mjk123]

You don't say what the course is about. Is it a bushcrafty thing or is it a course where you'll be spending 10 hours doing something else after which you have to make your own food. What I mean is: Will the cooking be just to feed you or as part of a social thing with your course mates?

Anyway here's my opinion. The Jetboil is really light and very efficient. Tonight I heated up a curry and rice (precooked twin pack thing from the supermarket) plus a large coffee on 8 grams of gas. The standard (small) Jetboil cannister holds 125g. So for a week, two cannisters, or one large one, would be more than enough. The Jetboil is very quick, so if you have a 15 minute break in the course you can brew up no problem and get back to whatever it is you're supposed to be learning. But it really is only good at heating up water; I wouldn't cook pasta in in, for example. So you'd be stuck with food you either rehydrate or warm up.

I've also got a stainless steel Trangia, which is at least 4 times heavier, even before you add the fuel. But it has a kettle for dedicated water boiling, two pots for pasta plus sauce, a plate for serving or eating, plus room for pot cleaning things. I can bake with it too.

For a trip where I'm just serving just my own needs and weight and convenience is a factor I prefer the Jetboil. For real "cooking", or providing for more than one person the Trangia pays off.

 

[Wallenstein]

Only issue I have with the trangia is the hot-spots on the fry-pan from the burner.

Instead of paying for a non-stick pan, I'm going to try a circle of teflon baking sheet - good up to 260C and weighs next to nothing. Lasts 5 yrs of daily use, so might be worth a crack if you find the aluminium pan has a tendency to weld fried food onto it

 

[rik_uk3]

How about

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JDuPCsqAv14

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[Matt Weir]

Spot on chap, some use the pre heat some don't, I've only been out and about at -10, the Trangia's worked fine. With most of the Scandanavian stove collectors, the general rule is not to bother, or carry the burner or small fuel bottle in you pockets to keep it warm. Paraffin is still fuel of choice over there for most campers using liquid fuel stoves, petrol stoves were banned for many years and the classic Optimus 111T multifuel and 199 still seem to prefer paraffin to be honest, I use both fuels in these stoves, depending upon my mood, fancy and stove of 'the moment'

I look on the Army 'Trangia' as an over the fire mess tin set with a meths burner backup to be honest.

Echo that. I use my SAT regular but mostly over fire, I love it

 

[andyn]

kit, kit,kit kit, kit.

Yes, I know its the "Kit Chatter" forum...but here's my take on it....

take some inititive, contact the school and see if the stove is a "must have" or if they are happy for you to cook over the fire. Why use a modern stove, when you could be experimenting with different cooking methods over the embers.

Don't buy more kit, just because the recommended kit list says so. Especially if you are happier cooking over the fire and are unlikely to use the stove again.

Anyway, whatever you decide on best of luck on the course, who is it with?

Be sure to report back and show us what you got up to, and what you learnt.

ATB.

Andy.

 

[jameshs]

kit, kit,kit kit, kit.
take some inititive, contact the school and see if the stove is a "must have" or if they are happy for you to cook over the fire. Why use a modern stove, when you could be experimenting with different cooking methods over the embers.

Don't buy more kit, just because the recommended kit list says so. Especially if you are happier cooking over the fire and are unlikely to use the stove again.

My thoughts exactly and I have asked. It is the Woodlore campcraft course .... and the reason I am a bit undecided is that I have done a few courses before (fundamental, journeyman etc) none of which used a stove! .... so I am a bit green in that department and need to find out if I can light a fire or have to use a stove.

My inclination is not to invest in kit, as I do have a travel light philosophy, and am going to think hard about a hobo based on the zebra. Am looking hard at the penny stoves and will try them out hoping that they are back-up for open fire cooking ...... the trangia looks like second place - I would normally be drawn to the jetboil because I am a kit fanatic, and would do it if I could use the cup or pan on a fire too ..... but at the moment don't like the 'specialist' nature of it.

Having been on WL courses before I think there will be constant brew on the man camp fire, and from what I have heard you can come to the camp to cook if you 'want' ..... so I guess it depends how social!

Thanks for all the help so far.


James

 

[kai055]

trangias arent hard to light, can boil water but are better just for keepin things warm, just get a msr pocket rockets there da nuts

 

[Chance]

My current compromise is a stiff windshield that acts as a bottomless hobo; used with a hosed canister stove and a billy.

 

[rik_uk3]

trangias arent hard to light, can boil water but are better just for keepin things warm, just get a msr pocket rockets there da nuts

They boil well, just not as fast as a gas stove in summer (try your Pocket Rocket in sub zero temps and see how long it takes to boil)

Trangia's are not hard to set up, this is a Trangia clone

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C4l1JveEAdE

 

[fishy1]

I can't understand what you are doing wrong, the Trangia 25/7 thrive on high winds, you have me puzzled Practice with the simmer ring and you will get about a 50 cook time, they can simmer well. The army 'Trangia' are much slower and don't do so well in wind though.

Hmm, I don't know. I remember one specific occasion, after which I never used my trangia again. I was on the summit of a hill, only about 2500 feet. Winds of about 30mph, pretty pleasant. No rain, temperaute maybe 15C of so, it was summer. Put some water (about 500ml or so) in the trangia pan. After 1/2 an hour, the water was only hot, not boiling. I never used the simmer ring after the first few times, as you get even slower cooking. Really really bad.

In winter, it was even worse. Now I have an MSR dragonfly, it's good, the filter has clogged once, but it's fast, and so adjustable. It's also only about £65 if you get it from the states sent over.

 

[rik_uk3]

Fishy, sounds like you were using low strength alcohol in the stove.

 

[kai055]

They boil well, just not as fast as a gas stove in summer (try your Pocket Rocket in sub zero temps and see how long it takes to boil)

Trangia's are not hard to set up, this is a Trangia clone

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C4l1JveEAdE

i never said they couldnt boil water i just meant it takes longer, and why would u take a gas stove to sub zero temps, u can in some sub zero temp places get wood so just have a fire like ray mears did