Splicing amsteel question

[sunndog]

Ok, so i had my first go at splicing tonight. Twas much easier than i expected having only ever done braided rope with a marlin spike Type stuff before
any reading this thinking of trying it. Just do it, with a couple youtube vids you cant go far wrong and the only special i used was some thin telephone wire


on to the question
I'v done a couple of continous loops and some fixed brummels. is there anything else thats useful to know?





Cheers.....adam

 

[neilwragg]

Be interested in following this too, just made some whoopie slings for the hammock with Amstel.

 

[copper_head]

I've been meaning to make some woopie slings for a while now. Where did you get your amsteel from? Just wondered if anyone knew a better price than the stuff DD sell?

 

[Toddy]

There's a fellow called John Kemp; he's a ropeworker, knife maker, woodsman….and he makes steel 'eternity' bracelets.
They are beautiful work
http://www.knyph.co.uk/ropework.html

He also does some beautiful rope work. If John has videos, they'd be worth finding I reckon.

M

 

[GadgetUK437]

I'v done a couple of continous loops and some fixed brummels. is there anything else thats useful to know?

Soft shackles are pretty dandy.
Soft Shackle Calculator
Animated Knots - Soft Shackle
hAnimated Knots - Stronger Soft Shackle

Other than that,

• Eye Splice
• Back Splice
• Dog Bones
• Whoopie Slings
• UCRs
• Loopie Slings

 

[bilmo-p5]

Thank you for the John Kemp link, Mary.

...

Ian

 

[Quixoticgeek]

Have you found a good video or written instructions on how to do a basic end splice on amsteel? The sort of thing you would use to terminate a length of cord rather than heat sealing. I think it may also be called a back splice. The only guides I could find are for 3 strand, not the 8 strand of amsteel.

Cheers

J

 

[GadgetUK437]

Look for locked Brummel... The just bury the remaining tail.

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Gadget.

 

[GadgetUK437]

Easy one Julia. Look for locked Brummel... Then just bury the remaining tail.

http://www.animatedknots.com/longbury/

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Gadget.

 

[sunndog]

Cheers folks, i can see dog bones coming in handy and soft shackles in 1.8mm would be good for a tarp

Copperhead, i got my last load from gadgetUK above.....not sure if he has any left now or not. His is twelve strand, the stuff i got from DD was eight strand if that makes any difference to ya


Julia, same as gadget i just did a locked brummel as an end sllice, dint know if that was the best way or not, but it worked

 

[GadgetUK437]

Loopie slings are a good alternative to continuous loops... Think adjustable continuous loops.

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Gadget.

 

[sunndog]

Loopie slings are a good alternative to continuous loops... Think adjustable continuous loops.

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Gadget.

Aye, they look a nifty doodad, just dont think i'd have a use for em though


Oh, gonna try and splice some 1.5mm tonight if i can find some thin enough wire.......also changed my "fid" to a length of steel wire out some armoured cable casing, seems to work much better than soft electrical wire

 

[Quixoticgeek]

Either my google fu is poor, or the stuff suggested (long bury splice, brummel splice) produce loops. I'm trying to find a way of terminating a cord without putting a loop on the end. I think it's called a back splice, but I can't find any instructions for 8 strands.

J

 

[GadgetUK437]

I'm trying to find a way of terminating a cord without putting a loop on the end

For a 2 inch backsplice, measure 5 inches from the end, slide your tool in there (heading back towards the end) come out thru the weave 2 inches from the end, grab the end and pull it right thru so there's no loop left and the tail comes out with the tool. Take your tool off the end, taper the threads (if you want, or haven't already), then smooth the outer sheath to suck the tail back inside.

I tend to put a loop on the end of most things tho', handy for tugging on, or larksheading to. My tarp guylines have loops at both ends, doesn't matter with way round I use them (or can use both ends at the same time). Putting a loop on the pulling end of a whoopie means you can use it like a UCR if you need more reach.

 

[copper_head]

Cheers folks, i can see dog bones coming in handy and soft shackles in 1.8mm would be good for a tarp

Copperhead, i got my last load from gadgetUK above.....not sure if he has any left now or not. His is twelve strand, the stuff i got from DD was eight strand if that makes any difference to ya


Julia, same as gadget i just did a locked brummel as an end sllice, dint know if that was the best way or not, but it worked

Thanks, is it more difficult to splice the 12 strand compared to the 8?

 

[tartanferret]

Thanks, is it more difficult to splice the 12 strand compared to the 8?

Don't worry about it mate, the DD stuff seems the the same as the Dutchman sells. VERY easy to splice. in fact a joy compared to zing-it, / lash-it.

Stein is good if you want the thinner stuff. e.g. Superfly tie-outs / guy lines

http://www.frjonesandson.co.uk/prod...es/stein-skyline-dyneema-throwline-1-8mm-50m/

Yup, 1.8 ! the 2.2 will remind you of crab lines. trust me.

 

[sunndog]

Thanks, is it more difficult to splice the 12 strand compared to the 8?

Nah, no different mate

 

[copper_head]

Nah, no different mate

Don't worry about it mate, the DD stuff seems the the same as the Dutchman sells. VERY easy to splice. in fact a joy compared to zing-it, / lash-it.

Stein is good if you want the thinner stuff. e.g. Superfly tie-outs / guy lines

http://www.frjonesandson.co.uk/prod...es/stein-skyline-dyneema-throwline-1-8mm-50m/

Yup, 1.8 ! the 2.2 will remind you of crab lines. trust me.

Cheers gents I shall get my hands on some.