Sleep mat for a painful back

[Janne]

My generation have a Medical degree first, ( Med Cand) then a Dental one. ( DDS, Doctor of D.S.)
Had I continued on the Medical branch, I would have done one more years in Uni on the specific Medical branch, , then two years of post grad, and become a GP.
3-5 more Specialization and become a Specialist.

Nah, boring, so after the Med Cand I continued 2.5 years in a specific Dental Faculty, then did time post grad.....
It took forever to get your first full wage. I was 29.

If you fail the Final Biggie after the Post Grad, some do, you are fubarred.
My best friend did fail . Committed suicide a week later.


British dentists are either LDS (Licensiate of D.S. or as we called it the 'Africa version' in my clinic in UK) or BDS ( Bachelor of D.S.)
Even today In Sweden, the students in some Dental Faculties have all the subjects a future MD has, including Obstetrics and Gynaecology. One faculty is slightly different.
That is in Sweden at least, I do not know about other countries.

Until recently ( still in some Unis today?) in Italy, you had to be a full blown MD, preferably with a specialization, to be able to do Dentistry.
Took the poor sods ages and ages of studying.

Yeah, I had to deliver a baby. Under supervision by an Obstetrician of course, just like a Med student......

The worst was Criminal Pathology. Autopsies of those cases the absolute rock bottom in my life.
I still remember a few of those, 4 decades later.

 

[Nice65]

I think I know a bit more than you do about ( legal) pharmacology after almost 4 decades in the medical area.

Sometimes premedication helps tremendously if you are going to do, for your body, unusual activity, Woody Girl. A mild dose of pain meds, a mild dose of muscle relaxant can make a huge difference not only during the night, but also for your wellbeing the next day.

It does for me, be it sitting in a aircraft seats for two days, or sleeping in nature.
I recommend you visit your GP, as I recommended earlier, and have a chat with him/her.

Arcoxia is not yet approved in the US, it will be soon. Different ways to approve pharmacologicals between Europe and the US.
Same with treatments.
In an ideal world we would cooperate in research, testing and approval worldwide, it would be safer, and cheaper for the patient!

Valium is one of the controlled drugs yes.

Woody Girl asks about a sleeping mat that is very light, but can work for her back problems.
Maybe you know the answer? Enlighten us!

Spot on, of course you know more about drugs. If the title of the thread read Recommend me a drug regime for ground camping with a bad back”, then what you’re posting wouldn’t really be your usual off topic. But she wants a comfortable bed, so you’re trolling and often railroading threads.

I have already offered my recommendations, and some useful information relevant to the question. I’m not at all surprised you haven’t read the thread, you didn’t even read the title, or that the OP already has a drug regime and a GP helping with the (irrelevant in this case) medical side of things.

 

[Janne]

There are no comfortable, light, portable beds. The End of story.
The Coleman blowup is what I personally have found to be the most ground comfortable, but it is heavy.
That is the Catch 22. A damaged body needs a comfortable bed system, but can not carry it.
a healthy one can carry it, but does not need it.

Your recommendations might be fine if you have a healthy spinal system, but if you do not, they are useless.
Yeah, I know a bit about legal drugs. You know a lot about illegal ones I am sure.

 

[Woody girl]

Hey guys! I do take a prescription for my problems and they work to a degree. So I realy don't need medical advice. Thank you for your concern Janne but that side of it is sorted thanks. Yes I was only after advice for a light but comfy mat for ground dwelling. Thanks to those that made recommendations. I plumped for the alpkit .mat. narrow after a double airbed but fine for a night or so. That's all I needed.
I agree with Nice 65 that you should not recommend drugs.. however effective they might be when mat advice has been requested. Especially as you have no idea what my condition is.
I'm sure most of us are mature enough to take proper advice if it's needed from their own GP.
On that note... try getting stuff out of the NHS nowadays! It's a different ballgame altogether. Even my asthma drugs are now the cheapest generic possible. I used to be allowed two pumps at a time but now only allowed one. !
Valium? That's why I go to the woods... so I don't need it

 

[Kepis]

Yeah, I know a bit about legal drugs. You know a lot about illegal ones I am sure.

Wow, no need to get personal

 

[Janne]

He is. All the time.

Woody Girl, what you can do, if you visit the same place, is to leave something comfy there permanently. I have done that in two spots up in Norway.

 

[Woody girl]

It wouldn't be there when I went back! Seriously tho I usualy hammock as it's much more comfortable and I can do only do one or two nights on the ground nowadays . My coastal trip has no trees so it was the floor or nothing. I could not cart my usual double air bed on that trip that's why I asked.
Incidentally it was quite comfy as far as mats go...... as long as I didn't roll over as I usualy do. Only fell off it 3 times!
Its due another outing for two nights soon. It's worth the dumpings to be comfy. Now the only problem is I need a small drybag to carry all my meds!

 

[Stew]

So many fairy tales....

 

[Nice65]

Wow, no need to get personal

It’s a libellous thing to say to someone who he’s recommending legal but quite dangerous drugs to, and an unnecessary hurtful putdown. Since when has any medical professional thought a patient may know a lot about illegal drugs and then suggested they take benzodiazepines?

A while back I suggested doing some research into CBD to Woody Girl, having found it helpful, but far from miraculous, for pain myself. She said she’d never even tried cannabis and clearly isn’t a an advocate of Valium either.

Or perhaps I misread your muddled post and the remark was aimed at me? I know plenty about illegal drugs, as does anyone with any interest or knowledge of the world around them. But whether it’s me or Woody Girl, inferring either takes illegal drugs makes your post libellous and defamatory on a public forum.

 

[norfolknun]

There are no comfortable, light, portable beds. The End of story.
The Coleman blowup is what I personally have found to be the most ground comfortable, but it is heavy.
That is the Catch 22. A damaged body needs a comfortable bed system, but can not carry it.
a healthy one can carry it, but does not need it.

Your recommendations might be fine if you have a healthy spinal system, but if you do not, they are useless.
Yeah, I know a bit about legal drugs. You know a lot about illegal ones I am sure.

Just an update to the original post. I have just spent my first night on my old Airic since fracturing my neck and spine. It was , shall we say, OK but no way would I manage several nights in a row. Looks as if I must purchase one of the newer versions or resort to car camping with some sort of ''legged'' bed system

 

[SaraR]

Just an update to the original post. I have just spent my first night on my old Airic since fracturing my neck and spine. It was , shall we say, OK but no way would I manage several nights in a row. Looks as if I must purchase one of the newer versions or resort to car camping with some sort of ''legged'' bed system

Haven't read all the recent pages, so might have been covered, but have you tried stacking two thick inflatable mats? Like two of the really thick Exped ones. DH finds it really comfortable on rocky cold ground but I keep falling off so might not work for you but easy to test in a shop.

 

[GuestD]

Haven't read all the recent pages, so might have been covered, but have you tried stacking two thick inflatable mats? Like two of the really thick Exped ones. DH finds it really comfortable on rocky cold ground but I keep falling off so might not work for you but easy to test in a shop.

OK, I'm a "cheapskate" I was in my local Lidl , and they had lightweight inflatable mats ( around 2" thick) in the bargain bin, so I bought two and stacked them, and it worked quite well for £8.

 

[SaraR]

OK, I'm a "cheapskate" I was in my local Lidl , and they had lightweight inflatable mats ( around 2" thick) in the bargain bin, so I bought two and stacked them, and it worked quite well for £8.

Glad to hear it! Maybe you could make a cover or use a strap or something to keep the two mattresses together.

 

[GuestD]

Glad to hear it! Maybe you could make a cover or use a strap or something to keep the two mattresses together.

They are corrugated, so they sort of interlock on their own.