Sharpening the Woodlore / Scandi Grind

[Hjaltlander]

Hi again,

Another question, why don't you want a secondary bevel on your blade?

What's the benefit or not of different blade profiles?

Thanks, Karl

 

[JakeR]

then get most of the scratches out with 400-600 went and dry on a hard surface, then carry on with a 1000 water stone. I now have a 6000 grit finishing stone, but the 1000grit gave a pretty good edge when stropped.

Would i wet the Wet and dry before hand? I assume so, but i know very little about it!

cheers,

Jake

 

[Ed]

The flat grind is the prefered grind for wood carving... it has a good 'bite'... and as wood is the main resource of the bushcrafter.... most bushcraft knives seem to have flat grinds.

The secondary bevel makes the edge a little stronger than on a traditional flat grind... it wont 'bite' so well into wood (though not much difference with only a tiny secondary bevel), but is great for skinning and game preperation...

Ed

 

[sargey]

re the secondary bevel: the world of things to be cut is divided into two groups, non-compressable materials, or compressable materials. otherwise known as wood and everthing else.

your average shop bought knife has a relatively large secondary bevel, as already said it makes the edge nice and strong. with string, meat, rope and any other squashy material it makes no odds. the material squashes and moves round the big bevel. wood can't be squashed, so it won't move round the big secondary bevel. the net result is you can only take the tiniest cuts or chips out of a piece of wood. if you spend a lot of time carving pot hangers, spoons, trap triggers feathersticks and so on, the secondary bevel is a major pain.

cheers ,and.

 

[Hjaltlander]

Thanks guy's for explaining that to me, makes perfect sense when i think about it. I suppose you'd really want to carry a couple of knives, one for general work, skinning, gutting, cutting ropes, etc. And another for any wood work without a secondary bevel.

Cheers, Karl

 

[Martyn]

Well, knives aren't *that* task exclusive. A knive that is good at general work, will also cut wood, a knife that will cut wood, will also do general work. It's jjust a question of deciding where your priorities are. For bushcrafters, generally cutting wood factors very highly on the list. Any single bevel knife that is good for woodcutting, will also do just fine for cutting rope, skinning game etc.

 

[sargey]

well i'm sort of going to disagree with martyn, he is right, but some tasks are less design specific than others...

the woodlore standard makes a great wood carving knife, try slicing a swede (turnip like vegetable) not one of our northern cousins, and you won't like it. but it makes a good potatoe peeler. the scandanavian or zero bevel edge is a bit less robust than some.

the woodlore standard will do just about any other knife task no problem. though some folks will suggest that it makes a poor fillet knife.

a big thick combat/survival knife with a large steep secondary bevel will be pants at: peeling potatoes, carving wood, slicing swedes (turnip like vegetable) not one of our northern cousins, and sharpening pencils. it will cut string and helicopters quite adequately. (being a bit facetious)

a really thin knife with a slight shallow secondary bevel will do most of the above tasks quite happily. but it may suffer some serious damage if you try to baton it through a knotty lump of wood.

all in all the idea of carrying more than one knife is a very sound one. you might choose a woodlore/woodlore clone and a large (long blade) swiss army knife, or an opinel. you might decide that with a hatchet, a frosts clipper is a perfectly adequate tool. the choices are limitless.

however, if you do find "the one knife" let us know 'cause i want one!

cheers, and.

 

[Martyn]

I agree with you Sargey, just pointing out that you dont *have* to have the others. Add a GrannyB, laplander saw, opinel, crook knife & leatherman wave to your woodlore and you have all bases covered with specialist tools - nice, for sure.

But as you point out, the woodlore (or scandi equiv) will carve wood, split logs, skin & butcher, cut rope, peel spuds and although not particularly good at it, you can slice carrots effectively enough to get em into a pot.

 

[boaty]

and although not particularly good at it, you can slice carrots effectively enough to get em into a pot.

If you're having trouble slicing your carrots with your Woodlore surely the solution is to use a baton?

If you're in the kitchen then a roling pin is a good choice (but not your best marble one)

:rolmao: :rolmao:

 

[MartiniDave]

I spent about an hour yesterday removing the breast fillets from a dozen or so woodpigeon.
I started out using my woodlore, but after a couple of birds switched to my helle eggen which has a bit thinner blade, which I found to be better for that specific task.
Incidentally I have used opinels for this kind of job for about 30 years now and the truth is, they work just as well as the more expensive blades, limitations of a folding design not withstanding.
For general bushcraft type use the woodlore and helle are prety evenly matched, untill we get to the firesteel!
I do my sharpening on what I'm told was my grandfathers spare razor stone - an incredibly fine waterstone - and my dads razor strop.

Stay sharp,

Dave

 

[Hoodoo]

If you're having trouble slicing your carrots with your Woodlore surely the solution is to use a baton?

If you're in the kitchen then a roling pin is a good choice (but not your best marble one)

:mrgreen: ): :mrgreen: \:

 

[sargey]

If you're having trouble slicing your carrots with your Woodlore surely the solution is to use a baton?

martyn, i'm not so sure, i have tried to cut back on the number of knives i take to the woods, i really have tried...



cheers, and.

 

[Adi007]

There are times when I still go out carrying kilos of steel!!!! :-D

If you're having trouble slicing your carrots with your Woodlore surely the solution is to use a baton?

martyn, i'm not so sure, i have tried to cut back on the number of knives i take to the woods, i really have tried...



cheers, and.