Semi Aquatic ancestor theory

[Poacherman]

Before I get lambasted the out off Africa model is also just a theory I believe fish is optimal food for humans incl shellfish hypothesis iv read claim bipedilism evolved from wading. Modern Apes stand on 2 legs in swamp forests to cross water, humans have many coastal adaptations brown fat and white fat less hair kidneys that excrete excess salt. Brains that thrive on DHA fats and good swimming capabilities it's possible we were sea hunters then conquered land in that order there's to many adaptations to write here but Google is your friend thoughts?

 

[crosslandkelly]

Google is certainly your friend.

 

[Broch]

That's it, I'm 100% convinced - although I would have expected more fossil evidence - but hey, who needs evidence to come up with a theory?

 

[Laurentius]

I seem to remember Desmond Morris came up with this theory years ago in "the naked ape"

 

[Toddy]

Nope, just nope.

It's based on the premise that we have mostly fur free skins....well so do mole rats.

We share the vast majority of our genes with the other great apes; 98.8% iirc.
Of course the corollary is that monkeys are 98.8% human

Anthropologists don't take the AAH theory seriously. No fossil evidence, and the lady who postulated it did so as a feminist take agin Desmond Morris' very male centred one on human development.

The reality is that the things that folks comment upon as being developments because of aquatic living are actually not related. They are seperate developments and they are present in the other great apes too. They're not a result of aquatic living.

Pretty sure there's an easily absorbed big Wiki article about it.
I'll find a link, easier that quoting dozens of archaeology and anthropology texts.

M

 

[Toddy]

Well, that was quick

Aquatic ape hypothesis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Tengu]

It wont go way will it?

 

[Paul_B]

Flat earth! There's people who will believe anything. I knew a guy who got banned for the correct use of science, maths, physics, etc to disprove theories being discussed on the flat earth society forum. To be fair he was only trolling them. Iirc they kind of acknowledged him as they banned him.

They are absolute nutters though. If you're a logical and argumentative type looking for a bit of fun, sign up to their forum and join the discussions. Lol!

BTW I think AAH is kind of the flat earth theory for anthropologists. I wonder if there's a forum for it too?

 

[Mesquite]

Flat earth! There's people who will believe anything. I knew a guy who got banned for the correct use of science, maths, physics, etc to disprove theories being discussed on the flat earth society forum. To be fair he was only trolling them. Iirc they kind of acknowledged him as they banned him.

They are absolute nutters though. If you're a logical and argumentative type looking for a bit of fun, sign up to their forum and join the discussions. Lol!

BTW I think AAH is kind of the flat earth theory for anthropologists. I wonder if there's a forum for it too?

Is that the flat earth forum with members all over the globe?

 

[Pattree]

Why not let them be!
It wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of them knew they were wrong.
I believe it’s more to do with identity in a world where distant “others” are explaining our world and communicating it to us through the one way systems of books and TV. Some people might feel resentful.

No it’s not going to go away because the science that discovers things and informs us tends to be remote and not easily accessible. This means that the answer to the challenge “…. You can’t prove it!” is equally remote. Does E really equal M x C x C. Dr. Einstein said so. I believe people that I perceive as plausible who say so and who have written explanations that I believe I understand. I don’t know much at all.

I have a friend who is a flat Earther. He doesn’t believe that the Americans have got to the moon either. He is inclined to believe that the Chinese will get there. I see that as an indication of an anti-establishment stance but what do I know.

If you really want to take on misinformation join Truthjuice for as long as you can stick it!

 

[Woody girl]

I often feel like a fish out of water...so maybe there is some truth to the theory.

 

[Pattree]

There is no such thing as a fish.

 

[Toddy]

These sort of topics, and discussion can be fun. A sort of exercise in, "well, why not ?", and everybody has to think about what they think they know.

M

 

[Paul_B]

Is that the flat earth forum with members all over the globe?

Yes. I actually think they say all around the planet when describing membership. I've heard it said it exists to find all the conspiracy theorists / gullible in one place for tracking or exploitation. Even among conspiracy theorists there's some with thicker tin foil in their hats!

 

[Paul_B]

The very real trouble is when the people espousing pseudo science and spreading misinformation set up educational trusts and promoting school syllabuses based on it. There's something like 25 uk schools that teach to the syllabus of a Texan educational trust and almost all of them have been found to produce school leavers insufficiently prepared for future adult life.

I read stories of school leavers unable to go to university because their school qualifications based on this syllabus weren't recognised. Or kids who did make it into university and had to do foundation years just to get their science knowledge to the level needed for their course. It totally amazed me how in the UK free schools could do what they liked.

I am trying to be apolitical and impartial but what I read about this one set of pseudo science espousing cranks was terrible for the kids in their sphere of influence. Without intending to cause offence, this texas HQed educational trust was a Christian fundamentalist group that taught bible inspired pseudo science. It is cases like this that makes me believe there should be zero tolerance of other pseudo science groups like flat earthers. It's also why we need to teach scientific method better and indeed STEM subjects at school for longer.

 

[Kadushu]

There's also the aquatic dinosaur hypothesis which may have credibility for some species of dinosaur. Spinosaurus is now regarded as probably semi aquatic.

Check out 'morphic resonance' if you fancy having your brain addled by another crackpot theory.

 

[Pattree]

This may be a bit of academic dot joining but it seems credible.

Mud skippers and catfish may be going in the opposite direction.

…… and……

 

[Wander]

The sleep of reason produces monsters..

 

[Poacherman]

That's it, I'm 100% convinced - although I would have expected more fossil evidence - but hey, who needs evidence to come up with a theory?

there's a tribe that still dive s for all its food today the Moken in thailand.

 

[Poacherman]

Flat earth! There's people who will believe anything. I knew a guy who got banned for the correct use of science, maths, physics, etc to disprove theories being discussed on the flat earth society forum. To be fair he was only trolling them. Iirc they kind of acknowledged him as they banned him.

They are absolute nutters though. If you're a logical and argumentative type looking for a bit of fun, sign up to their forum and join the discussions. Lol!

BTW I think AAH is kind of the flat earth theory for anthropologists. I wonder if there's a forum for it too?

I don't mean we're literally aquatic but we're well equiped for coastal environments this has abs nothing to do with flat earth the earth is a sphere.