Quiet Stove?

[ArkAngel]

Howdy all

I'm in the market for a new stove. Main features have to be:

Stable
Adjustable flame
Light (obviously!)
Small
and QUIET.

I used to have an MSR Dragonfly that with bottle and the likes took up a bit too much room, it's main drawback was starting it up in a quiet area. It meant that people started looking up in the air assuming the RAF were on low level manoeuvres

Not bothered if it's cartridge run or bottle fed, i suppose if pushed bottle would be preferred as it is easier to guestimate fuel usage and top up before going out.

Cheers in advance

 

[spamel]

Short of a trangia, they're all gonna create noise. Rik will be the man to tell you here though, he knows his stoves!

 

[crazyclimber]

Hey, for quiet I guess you're limited to meths or hexy (/trioxane) for a 'stove' stove, otherwise you could also consider something like the famous Wayland stove or the bushbuddy. Not sure how adjustable you want the flames on them though; hexy is somewhat adjustable (add more fuel for more heat), the trangias obviously have their simmer rings, the vargo decagon I use is low power enough for me not to usually want to reduce the heat any more anyway (yeah I see the irony!). Like Spamel said I think all pressure stoves are going to create the jet engine thing.
Actually thinking about it there was talk of the US military and MSR making a petrol stove that worked on capillary action (don't quote me on that - heard a while back)... will have to find out how they got on. No pump = no pressure so that could be quiet too

 

[basha]

...Actually thinking about it there was talk of the US military and MSR making a petrol stove that worked on capillary action (don't quote me on that - heard a while back)... will have to find out how they got on. No pump = no pressure so that could be quiet too

I will quote you on that . I also stumbled on an article about that (from a link to a link etc.) about a year ago. I think the burner consisted of a ceramic disc of some sort. I think I saw pictures of it operating. I cannot remember the makers name, but it I think it was on a
website reviewing US military products.
I wish I had posted a link to it then; one of the features of the new design was a reduction in the number of parts compared to existing pressurised stoves.

This may be the one;
http://www.natick.army.mil/about/pao/pubs/warrior/05/mayjune/index.htm

It's the fourth article down, entitiled 'Pocket Stove'.

 

[crazyclimber]

Thanks basha, nice link. Glad the idea got off the ground, the whole thing was in its infancy last time I heard about it; great to see it actually worked. I wonder why we're not all using them though... that article was written for May / June 05, "The commercial stove will be ready next year, with the military version possibly being fielded in limited quantities before commercial sales." MSR would make a killing if it all worked yet looking on their website not a mention. Hmmm

 

[rik_uk3]

The first prototypes were very small, just a plastic tube with the burner mounted on top that was back around 2003.

I've talked to a fellow stove collector who has had the chance to try out a military version, and its not bad, lights easily and throws out a reasonable amount of heat, about the same as a SVEA 123

Stoves like the Optimus 111T are fitted with silent burners and are quiet, but they are not lightweight (not a problem if there are two of you though). The Optimus Nova is quieter than the MSR but its still loud

As others said, the pukka Trangia is silent, and performs so well, perfect if you don't mind waiting a little longer for your brew and its my stove of choice for solo camping

 

[bikething]

...Stoves like the Optimus 111T are fitted with silent burners and are quiet...

Exactly how 'silent' is a silent burner? in relation to say a gas stove?
(or should I just buy one to find out )

 

[rik_uk3]

Exactly how 'silent' is a silent burner? in relation to say a gas stove?
(or should I just buy one to find out )

I would think they are quieter than most gas stoves going at full blast, the standard 111 is a roarer paraffin stove, the 111B (roarer) burns Coleman type fuel, the silent 111T burns paraffin and Coleman type fuels and even meths with a little conversion kit. They are all fantastic stoves and well worth buying, they go for between £25 and £50 on eBay so not that expensive and they are easy to maintain/fettle

 

[Northwoods]

Trangia with gas conversion. Pretty quiet and FAST

 

[Gekko]

Have you tried the Jet Boil? look it up on U tube for a demo from Andy at RV Ops.

I use one as I can't risk fires in my local would land as i am not meant to be there if you know what i mean?

All the best

Gekko

 

[tenderfoot]

For quiet with a degree of portability how about one pint kelly kettle? The ex swedish military trangias are ubiquitous and cheap so worth a try for eight quid or so ( if you dont like it you can always use the messkit bit seperatelyand the burner is the same as the 25/27 so you can buy a simmer ring to fit
By the By, Richard would you be the hospital worker /stove collector who posts on the spiritburner site?
I think there was a picture and link regarding the capillary burner on the zen stoves website.
Another thought,( though sacrilege to pressure stove afficionados) is a paraffin wick type stove,used throughout the world ,simple, adjustable and quiet though often bulky

And you always need more than one type