Phone Tracking

Gray

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Guys, i've just lent the guys who have gone to Finland my Sat Phone. I know its a bit late now but how would i have gone about tracking the phone to keep an eye on their movements. I've searched google and its just a minefield of rubbish info. Any ideas anyone. Cheers
 

dwardo

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Guys, i've just lent the guys who have gone to Finland my Sat Phone. I know its a bit late now but how would i have gone about tracking the phone to keep an eye on their movements. I've searched google and its just a minefield of rubbish info. Any ideas anyone. Cheers

Ayup mate long time no speak.

I wouldnt have a clue on the Sat phone side of things, i guess it would depend on the model.
If it were a normal phone you would have had to have something installed first that would report its GPS details or similar to a central place where you could retrieve it.
 

The Ratcatcher

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Unless a sat phone has a GPS locator or is SARSAT/COSPAS compatible it can't be tracked. Ground mobiles can be located by the service provider using signal properties to (very) roughly triangulate the position. This is how the police and Mountain Rescue find missing people. Unfortunately, sat phones work to a single geo-stationary satellite, so this doesn't work.
 
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Gray

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Ayup mate long time no speak.

I wouldnt have a clue on the Sat phone side of things, i guess it would depend on the model.
If it were a normal phone you would have had to have something installed first that would report its GPS details or similar to a central place where you could retrieve it.
Leon, hiya buddy. Its an old Thuraya Hughes 7100, unfortunately it doesnt support installing software on it.
 

Gray

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Unless a sat phone has a GPS locator or is SARSAT/COSPAS compatible it can't be tracked. Ground mobiles can be located by the service provider using signal properties to (very) roughly triangulate the position. This is how the police and Mountain Rescue find missing people. Unfortunately, sat phones work to a single geo-stationary satellite, so this doesn't work.

Hiya Alan, it is GPS enabled, in fact i'm sure i read somewhere its GPSS, whatever that is.
 

ADz-1983

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Guys, i've just lent the guys who have gone to Finland my Sat Phone. I know its a bit late now but how would i have gone about tracking the phone to keep an eye on their movements. I've searched google and its just a minefield of rubbish info. Any ideas anyone. Cheers

You should have installed a program like Cerberus or other such security software. That way you could get a GPS position of the device any time you wanted. You could have also taken pictures/videos from front/back cameras, audio recordings or for a laugh set off an screaming alarm :D
 

Gray

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You should have installed a program like Cerberus or other such security software. That way you could get a GPS position of the device any time you wanted. You could have also taken pictures/videos from front/back cameras, audio recordings or for a laugh set off an screaming alarm :D
Cheers bud but its an old phone and you cant install software on it, it doesnt have cameras
 

The Ratcatcher

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Originally the H.O. system was called Tetris, though they may have changed it. The system is run by Hutchison Telecom, who are the provider for Orange Mobile Phones. If you've ever had an Orange phone, you'll know exactly what the problems are.
 

widu13

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I remember it as Tetra and it was first run in the UK by Dolphin who were later absorbed into the Hutchison group. I was interested in it's features specifically P2P before I even knew it was going to be called P2P or that we were getting Airwave, locally there was discussion about Project Millenium (long time ago!) On the whole Airwaves is a better system than the UHF, but only if the renting agency buys all of the features. Waiting for a gap to P2P used to do my head in!
 

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