How about this?
Am with red on this un !! My money is on them being a pair of sparrowhawks !!Try an get a good picture mate (without) disturbing them !! Watched a pair a few years ago raising young in an old crows nest an the noise of the youngins gave them away !!! plenty pigeon feathers around as well !!!!
Check these photos out - http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=no...1FYeYhQemtcX4BA&ved=0CB0QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=658
The photos of these Northern Goshawks showing streaked breast markings are immature birds and the barred breast marking are adult.
Have you considered that the birds that you are seeing might be escaped hawkers birds? Goshawks are usually very shy, elusive birds and not at all easy to see.
Thats a male sparrowhawk....the female is often more grey (as above). Could be a pair of birds that you have seen.
Thats a male sparrowhawk....the female is often more grey (as above). Could be a pair of birds that you have seen.
It's the other way round the smaller grey back red front is the male, the much bigger brown one is the female.
I'd also say Reds female image is very untypical the breast is normally very clear horizontal bars on pale background like this
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thanx for that, will be having a good look today, i love the way the pigeons and being massacred by these wonderful birds!