Peasant style knives as EDC?

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chris_irwin

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are peasant style knives such as this legal to carry in the UK if the blade is under 3"? Or does it constitute as a locking knife?

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Lots of people will give you their opinions, but the long and the short of it is that noone knows, becase it's not defined clearly in statute and there has not been a test-case.

To give you an indication though I have a similar knife, and my (middle-class, urbanite) dad's reaction was... not favourable.
 
i believe the OP was talking about the style of knife... ie: friction folder and stated " if the blade is under 3" "

for your information, most folks grind a couple of mm from the blade at the handle end to make it legal EDC

please read and understand the OP before making comments like the above.
 
There may also be an issue if the knife can be opened with one hand.

Cheers, Alan.

That's not written into the law here. It is, however, in another european country but I can't for the life of me remember which - I just remember seeing spyderco knives sold with inserts to stop them being able to be opened one handed.

As for UK EDC, I recently got a spyderco UKPN in FRN which is the cheaper version and I've been very impressed so far. Not as bushy as the peasant but a nice bit of kit!
 
i believe the OP was talking about the style of knife... ie: friction folder and stated " if the blade is under 3" "

for your information, most folks grind a couple of mm from the blade at the handle end to make it legal EDC

please read and understand the OP before making comments like the above.

comments like what?

That particular model is not a legal EDC in the UK as it is slightly over 3" in length. -I was merely trying to point out that this particular blade is not a legal EDC. it was not meant to be inflammatory or to start a debate.

I was under the impression that the tip was preferentially ground as it sticks out from the handle
http://stewartjlight-knives.blogspot.com/2010/08/svord-peasant-re-build-part-1.html

as you have already said and a point I am not refuting is that the style of blade is perfectly legal.

Andy
 
To expand a little on my opinion: although CJA 1988 S(139A) allows for EDC of a non-locking folding knife (with blade of cutting edge 3" or less) there has not yet been a test-case with respect to whether long-tang folding knives of the Svord Peasant style constitute a folding knife -- some may consider that they are useable with the folding handle removed and are thus fixed blades. The intention of the statute is fairly clear -- to allow the everyday carry of SAKs and such 'normal' non-locking pocket knives. Furthermore in my opinion the chances of the average bobby knowing this aspect of law correctly are minimal.

Therefore it is my opinon that, technical questions of legality aside, EDC of a Peasant style knife could unfortunately lead to police-related unpleasantness. It's a shame because it's a brilliant design, but this is an overcrowded island with a penchant for restrictive legislation.
 
To expand a little on my opinion: although CJA 1988 S(139A) allows for EDC of a non-locking folding knife (with blade of cutting edge 3" or less) there has not yet been a test-case with respect to whether long-tang folding knives of the Svord Peasant style constitute a folding knife -- some may consider that they are useable with the folding handle removed and are thus fixed blades. The intention of the statute is fairly clear -- to allow the everyday carry of SAKs and such 'normal' non-locking pocket knives. Furthermore in my opinion the chances of the average bobby knowing this aspect of law correctly are minimal.

Therefore it is my opinon that, technical questions of legality aside, EDC of a Peasant style knife could unfortunately lead to police-related unpleasantness. It's a shame because it's a brilliant design, but this is an overcrowded island with a penchant for restrictive legislation.

never looked at ti like that,...

but yeah,...the extended tang is indeed usable as a handle,..

thinking laterally,...

its basically a fixed blade with a hole drilled in it and a piece of wood swinging free ,....

if i drilled a hole in my 3 inch fixed blade skinner and made whats more of an "edge cover" than the body of the knife, i could call it a folder,...?

be aware i use this as an analogy to highlight how loose the wording of the law is,.....and not for any other reason,,....of course its absurd i would do this, and any plod would see it for what it is,...

the last thing i,d want to happen is the ooooold debate on the law to open up again, but you see the point i try to make i,m sure,..

can anyone remember the old motorcycle law circa 60- 70s?...

you could ride a bigger bike on L plates if it had a side car,,,,

but what constituted a sidecar in the law ended up being a 2 foot piece of broom handle with a wheel on the end!!

so the roads were full of 17 year olds with Kawa Z1000, s fitted with "sidewinders"

hahahah

cheers

Stu...
 
LOL ! i remember the sidewinders very well !!

in fact in 1977 at the age of 17, i passed my motor cycle test on a 650cc triumph thunderbird with a sidecar on it LOL !!
 
comments like what?

That particular model is not a legal EDC in the UK as it is slightly over 3" in length. -I was merely trying to point out that this particular blade is not a legal EDC. it was not meant to be inflammatory or to start a debate.

I was under the impression that the tip was preferentially ground as it sticks out from the handle
http://stewartjlight-knives.blogspot.com/2010/08/svord-peasant-re-build-part-1.html

as you have already said and a point I am not refuting is that the style of blade is perfectly legal.

Andy

I think that one just slipped past QC Andy. I have other plastic handled ones that don't have this issue. :)
 

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