Pakayak

[TeeDee]

Any seasoned Canoe people have some input and views on this ?

I'm kinda tempted as a significant space saver but don't claim to have enough knowledge of its potential Pro's and Cons.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pakayak/pakayak-the-ultimate-packable-kayak


The Price currently is way over the top but i'd imagine that will come down in time.

 

[sunndog]

Despite all those joints on a boat. Thats really cool

 

[TeeDee]

Ref the joints i'm guessing they couldn't fit a flexible seal due to the Seawater shredding it. I'd be really interested in testing one out.

 

[sunndog]

No reason they shouldn't hold up very well if quality materials are used though. If you think of it in comparison to an inflatable kayak then it should be at least as robust
and probably much longer lived

Maybe not best suited to jumping off wiers and such but for more gentle paddling about it looks great

 

[GGTBod]

Looks pretty cool, i just spent a good 30 minutes exploring all they have shared, one thing that gets me though is price and weight (55lbs min), the flat pack or pakayak market is heaving right now with options and most are a lot cheaper than this and way lighter (by more than half) and smaller packing down which are already in production by reputable companies with a solid history (thinking of customer service/warranty in future etc). So thinking all that i dunno if i had best part of 2000 dollars to spend on a packable kayak or canoe that it would get spent on one of these, i'd certainly give them a look but i don't think it would get in my top 3 products of choice in that market due to price, weight and size of the item once packed down

 

[sunndog]

First flat pack kayak i'v seen bod, didn't even know there was such a thing


You and that 'bushcraft girl' got me wanting an inflatable SUP ages ago. Not got one but still have a hankering

 

[GGTBod]

I've currently only got internet on my phone but once pc is working again I'll post a load of links, some flat pack like IKEA made then and weigh like 10kg and others fold like accordions and are near see through and again weigh next to nowt

 

[GGTBod]

I've currently only got internet on my phone but once of is working again I'll post a load of links, some flat pack like IKEA made then and weigh like 10kg and others fold like accordions and are near see through and again weigh next to nowt

 

[sunndog]

10kg you say?.....don't tempt me frodo!

 

[GGTBod]

Soon as my PC is back online I'll dig out the ones I've seen, one is a very well known Norwegian brand but I am totally brain farting on the name right now, Lars Monsen Norwegian bushcrafter adventure guy uses one, he has vids on YouTube

[video=youtube_share;y9lxYBIviqg]https://youtu.be/y9lxYBIviqg[/video]

 

[GGTBod]

If I said I hadn't found myself drooling at the Orukayak range now and then I'd be lying

https://www.orukayak.com

 

[sunndog]

Ooh that looks a good vid. Not got time to sit and watch it just now but thanks dude

 

[GGTBod]

Lars is genuinely one of the people who inspired me to ignore everyone who was telling me I would die and just get out in nature and see how my life experiences and instincts respond, and to take cameras and try and capture a natural honest picture of it all for better or worse, he has done other videos since then in Alaska and Canada but back before my first big trip he only had the single 3 +hrs video

 

[GGTBod]

That orukayak thing would literally fit folded into a small rucsack

 

[GGTBod]

These flat pack aluminium canoes is what Lars uses as his main boat for extended wilderness travels

https://www.nordiclife.co.uk/collections/ally-canoes?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm_Ov_OP61QIVT77tCh2dbwk9EAAYASAAEgK-ufD_BwE

 

[mrcharly]

No wonder that pakayak is so heavy, with joints across the boat like that, they had to make it very thick, out of a soft (but heavy) material. I think their design is a bit flawed from the start - or maybe it is an ok design for people who need something that packs away into a car, not back-packable.

Klepper have been making folding kayaks for over a hundred years. They have been used to cross the Atlantic. 22kg for a single kayak

 

[Janne]

I agree. Klepper is the brand to go for. If something breaks on them it can be easily replaced. also lots of useful accessories.

 

[mrcharly]

I agree. Klepper is the brand to go for. If something breaks on them it can be easily replaced. also lots of useful accessories.

I hadn't thought of that but it is a really good point. A make that has been around for such a long time will be much easier to source spares and repair.

 

[Madriverrob]

Came across these .........

http://www.waylandkayaks.co.uk/

( No Affiliation or knowledge of but might be worth a look)

 

[Sundowner]

Still. Nothing beats one of these to lug around loads of stuff......including dogs