Off grid Living - modern feasibility.

TeeDee

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Not necessarily just this video but it did make me rethink how now , with the relative modern advantages of many many bespoke , ready to go , kit , design and support ( Starlink, PV solar array and battery , gshp , grey water recycling ) , more modern insulation and build technologies and generally what just seems to be more of a well serviced 'modular kit' themed approach to off grid living as opposed to living out of a Yurt or a grubby caravan ( not that there is anything wrong with that )

Is Off Grid living now a more easy to achieve possibility than it was 10/15 years ago?

How feasible is it ?

Thoughts ?


 
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Chris

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Solar's a real game changer in my opinion.

I think it's feasible, but the barrier to entry is the need for a big wedge of cash up front. Not only for the land, and the material to build your home, but also for the initial outlay on solar panels and such.

This guy spent about £190k doing it, if I recall correctly? And he had specialist help from friends with the carpentry and building the house.

I don't think my wife would fancy it, but sometimes it's a very tempting idea.
 

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It's extremely possible to live a comfortable modern life off grid these days but there is an up front outlay. PV, wind turbine, micro hydro, battery storage, satellite broadband, internet working, meeting, shopping and conferencing all play a part.

Sadly society appears to be planned around grey little urban dwellers who are determined to trap everyone on the hamster wheel
 
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Solar's a real game changer in my opinion.

I think it's feasible, but the barrier to entry is the need for a big wedge of cash up front. Not only for the land, and the material to build your home, but also for the initial outlay on solar panels and such.

This guy spent about £190k doing it, if I recall correctly? And he had specialist help from friends with the carpentry and building the house.

I don't think my wife would fancy it, but sometimes it's a very tempting idea.

Agreed its a whack of capital to be found upfront.

Around my way 190k may get you a nice 1 bed flat? A modest Two bed house with shoe box rooms and gardens where you can't even swing the proverbial unhappy feline.

I guess my angle was many people have a large amount of equity tied up in houses that maybe they are less than happy with - rather than looking to nudge themselves up the property ladder ( at great cost ) - if the possibility of levering that equity to something quite different.
 

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Another channel of a family going off grid in Scotland.


Using micro hydro power, initally used starlink but reverted to 4g
 

British Red

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I guess my angle was many people have a large amount of equity tied up in houses that maybe they are less than happy with - rather than looking to nudge themselves up the property ladder ( at great cost ) - if the possibility of levering that equity to something quite different.
Owning your own property with minimal outgoings, particularly if you can provide heating & food can be a life changing experience.

I know
 
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I would look at it slightly differently and wonder how much of the kit is really needed. For example, I knew someone who was proud of his solar PV as he could do his tumble drying for 'free' (ignoring the £1,000s spent on the panels even after a grant) whereas we have just used a humble washing line for years.

As for costs you also need to looking to everyday costs such as council tax. It has a large element of land tax in it, so if you buying several acres to build a house be aware that the council tax valuation will put you in a higher band than if the house sits in a small plot. (So, when purchasing the land see if you could separate out the house plot from the rest of the land).
 
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TeeDee

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I would look at it slightly differently and wonder how much of the kit is really needed. For example, I knew someone who was proud of his solar PV as he could do his tumble drying for 'free' (ignoring the £1,000s spent on the panels even after a grant) whereas we have just used a humble washing line for years.

As for costs you also need to looking to everyday costs such as council tax. It has a large element of land tax in it, so if you buying several acres to build a house be aware that the council tax valuation will put you in a higher band than if the house sits in a small plot. (So, when purchasing the land see if you could separate out the house plot from the rest of the land).

Thats a fair comment and good observation.
We tend to focus on creating more overly complicated ways of energy production as opposed to minimizing the requirements of that energy production.

I deal with a lot of customers that want Heat Pumps for the most ill fitting structures ( old churches , drafty cottages etc ) that seem more intent on getting the Heat Pump ( I guess because its gucci tech ) as opposed to addressing the basics of insulation.
 
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TLM

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We tend to focus on creating more overly complicated ways of energy production as opposed to minimizing the requirements of that energy production.
This sentence explains some of the worst mistakes made in many cases. It is not a question of producing huge amounts of electricity it is how to use as little as possible and still achieve your needs.
 
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