Northface named and shamed!
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The link says;
- The grey goose down in this bag is purchased from small, family-owned farms that do not live-pluck or force-feed the geese
It would be naive to believe that the down & feathers arn't procured by live plucking.....these so called small farms couldn't supply the industrial quantities of down needed ....they can produce 4 times as much down a year by live plucking.......until Northface informs us from which countries they obtain their down , we have to assume the worst.......
As for force- feeding, it's very common even in so called modern countries like France, if you eat foie gras, you support this 'industry'
As for force- feeding, it's very common even in so called modern countries like France, if you eat foie gras, you support this 'industry'
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Hungary. The birds are bred for food primarily.
The process is repeat three times a day with the intention of making the liver grow far bigger than it's natural size and develop the characteristic buttery consistency of Foie Gras.
North Face have admitted it and said they are working to find an alternative source but It may prove difficult because the majority of down from Hungary comes from Foie Gras geese.
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They are still stating otherwise in their literature - they hope people won't ask questions - It's de rigeur these days to 'come clean' after being found lying. It's not good enough.
My down jacket was made in China and no fois gras was produced as a spin off.
They probably ate it and the ducks involved too.
They probably ate it and the ducks involved too.
I'm afraid I don't subscibe to the "foie gras = evil" point of view, but if a company lies about the provenance of their product in order to increase sales then they should be sanctioned for it. I wonder how many of the people who would complain at foie gras production would eat farmed salmon...
Lets be honest!! To produce down in the quantity to supply the industrial fabrication of clothing & sleeping bags will never be a "sustainable, humane" process!! How can it be?? should we ask if there is any duck/goose shearers out there!!!!!
That's not the point - If companies lie about their sources and try to greenwash their products they should be held to account for it. If we know the truth we can make informed decisions about our purchases.
Who cares, Im snuggy when out an and about
If you think you can make a change then crack on, otherwise, enjoy the warmth of the down.
If you think you can make a change then crack on, otherwise, enjoy the warmth of the down.
Who cares, Im snuggy when out an and about
I'm with you there Southey, perhaps they shouldn't make bold claims when the opposite is true though. Just don't say anything would be my approach...
Who cares, Im snuggy when out an and about
I care quite a lot
I like to know who I'm giving my money to.
I care quite a lot
Very good but are you prepared to give quite a Lot more of your money for a product that Ticks all of the increasing number of 'ethical' boxes??
I don't, I choose the kit that performs in the way I want, if that requires the milking of Doe eyed unicorns with out my knowledge yet I am told it is hewn from mother earths bowls with her kind permission, I don't care, I am only interested in the cost being right, and the item working how it should for as long as I deem acceptable for the money paid. All this provedence noncence is just to give you that smug look if you want to pay for it.
Yes
It's nothing to do with feeling smug - it's to do with corporations being honest. I really don't care how you spend your money, but I do care about corporate honesty. Lets not get off topic with this -
They lied. That's it.
magentus said:
So do you fully understand the supply chain TNF and other companies operate when it come to down goods or any other product sourced from a low cost market???
Who cares, Im snuggy when out an and about
lol. that made me chuckle.
