Land of the Lost Wolves - BBC

[santaman2000]

Have I understood this? You can pay the government forty dollars to go and shoot a bear?

You pay the Dept of Game and Fish for the right to go and TRY to shoot a bear. Success is not guarenteed. If you have never hunted before you will probably also need the services of a guide (and success is still NOT guarenteed)

Actually if you are only interested in hunting (and don't need the combination license) then the basic resident hunting license is only $$12.75 + the bear tag ($11.50) or a total of $25.25. It's considerably higher for non residents though:

Basic annual non-resident license = $97.75 (for an adult; it varies somewhat for juniors and seniors) then add the non-resident bear tag ($186) for a total of $283.75.

Here's the fee schedule for non-Idaho resident tags:


Black Bear - Adult
$186.00


Black Bear - Adult - Reduced Price
$31.75
To be used only in designated units, NOT Statewide.


Black Bear - Adult - Second
$31.75
To be used only in designated units, NOT Statewide.


Black Bear - Jr. Mentored
$23.75
Must have a Junior Mentored hunting license. The accompanying adult must have a tag(s) for the same species, valid in the same area(s). The junior mentored deer tags are not valid for bear or mountain lion.


Black Bear - Jr. Mentored Second
$ 23.75
Must have a Junior Mentored hunting license.


Deer - Adult
$301.75
Valid to take a black bear or mountain lion, if a season is open for that species, instead of a deer where and when the deer tag is valid, and there is an open deer season in that same unit.


Deer - Jr. Mentored
$23.75
Must have a Junior Mentored hunting license. The accompanying adult must have a tag(s) for the same species, valid in the same area(s). The junior mentored deer tags are not valid for bear or mountain lion. Price not valid for leftover nonresident general season deer or elk tags purchased as second tags.


Elk - Adult
$416.75


Elk - Jr. Mentored
$39.75
Must have a Junior Mentored hunting license. The accompanying adult must have a tag(s) for the same species, valid in the same area(s). Price not valid for leftover nonresident elk tags purchased as second tags.


Mountain Lion - Adult
$186.00


Mountain Lion - Adult - Reduced Price
$31.75
To be used only in designated units, NOT Statewide.


Mountain Lion - Adult - Second
$31.75
To be used only in designated units, NOT Statewide.


Turkey - Adult - Extra
$80.00


Turkey - Adult - General
$80.00



Turkey - Jr. Mentored Extra
$19.75
Must have a Junior Mentored hunting license or a Youth Small Game hunting license.


Turkey - Jr. Mentored General
$19.75
Must have a Junior Mentored hunting license or a Youth Small Game hunting license.


Wolf
$31.75

 

[ged]

You pay the Dept of Game and Fish for the right to go and TRY to shoot a bear. Success is not guarenteed. If you have never hunted before you will probably also need the services of a guide (and success is still NOT guarenteed) ...

Yes, I understand the probabilities, and no, I'm not planning to go out bear hunting (except perhaps with a camera, and presumably I wouldn't have to pay for that).

I'm just staggered by the figures.

 

[santaman2000]

Yes, I understand the probabilities, and no, I'm not planning to go out bear hunting (except perhaps with a camera, and presumably I wouldn't have to pay for that).

I'm just staggered by the figures.

LOL. I don't think they'll charge for pix. I

I couldn't find any figures on the bear hunt success rate but the latest available on their site for wolf hunts (2009) was 26,384 tags sold and only 151 wolves harvested. That gives a pretty low success rate of about .00572% That harvest came from an estimated population of about 1000 wolves with 150 breeding pairs (These figures are for Idaho only. I couldn't find much info for Wyoming or Washington) It's also believed that
none of the harvested wolves were alpha males or females so the number of breeding pairs remains unchecked and the total population is expected to increase to around 1200 within a year. The number may be a bit skewed as sometimes animal rights groups will buy tags so that they don't get used but on the whole their effect is fairly small.

And the tag sales alone put a total of $409,924 (or about $2715 per wolf harvested) into the Depts coffers to use for their conservation efforts.

 

[greensurfingbear]

very good show, but surprised no one has mentioned liking Gordons ruck sack lol


out of interest anyone know what it is?

 

[Tengu]

Well thats an eye opener.

I always thought the more exotic game came with a massive price tag.

 

[santaman2000]

Well thats an eye opener.

I always thought the more exotic game came with a massive price tag.

It does. But wolves aren't particulary exotic. Coyotes on the other hand often have a bounty paid rather than a fee charged in many states; beaver also.

Also remember that the goal is to NOT price hunting so high that it would be only available to the rich. Most (although not all) hunting over here is done by the poor and/or middle income population. The upper income prefer to indulge in their yachts and/or urban lifestyles (golf, theater, etc.)

 

[Tengu]

Ah, very different to us.

 

[santaman2000]

Ah, very different to us.

Yes and I think therein probably lies the difference in our philosophical views on hunters and hunting itself.

Editted to say i mean our collective views as a society, not your and my individual views