Knots for tightening Tarp Ridgerope

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Joonsy

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We can both agree that the Evenk Knot cannot be tied one handed, yes?
it is easy to tie the evenk one-handed, if the evenk is too difficult for you to tie and requires ''gymnastics'' as you put it i suggest you give up knot tying altogether and use velcro.
 

decorum

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I said it was for pulling.
What you say in your video is something along the line of '... for towing, for pulling ...'. But you also state in the same sentence that it's 'by hand' rather than by vehicle or mechanical leverage.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! BOOMBOOM! Double barrel to the head! :D
In fairness the knot he's showing is quite useful ~ I've used it for years as a stop-gap to hold things in place whilst I get things sorted properly.
 

knotstar

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you said and to quote yourself ''suppose you have a heavy load to tow''
And if you listened you would have heard me correct myself at 1:56 to say "or pull", which is what I meant to say.

you don't know my knowledge of knots (nor me yours) i was taught from childhood by my seaman father and have been using them for over 45 years where safety is paramount..
So it seems I was correct in assuming you have a closed mind and are too old to learn new tricks! My father never taught me any knots, I learned them myself and now invent my own when I am not happy with the old ones, either because they are unecessarily difficult to tie and or because they are not quick release, and IMO all knots should be both easy to tie and quick release, even after heavy loading.


Your ''brand-new'' knot as you call it is donkeys years old and is nothing more than a variant of a slipped half-hitch.
Variant means it is not identical...And therefore it is new!
 

knotstar

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What you say in your video is something along the line of '... for towing, for pulling ...'.

I did not mean to say "tow"....Listen again...At 1:56 I correct myself by saying "or pull", which is what I meant to say...Or perhaps you can't understand my Middlesaxon accent? But in any case, I have used it to pull or tow my car before, by hand!

But you also state in the same sentence that it's 'by hand' rather than by vehicle or mechanical leverage.
In light of my previous sentence, that will now make sense.
 
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Joonsy

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So it seems I was correct in assuming you have a closed mind and are too old to learn new tricks! My father never taught me any knots, I learned them myself and now invent my own when I am not happy with the old ones, either because they are unecessarily difficult to tie and or because they are not quick release, and IMO all knots should be both easy to tie and quick release, even after heavy loading.
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it seems to me you are just trying to be different for the sake of it, so generations of knot-tiers like merchant seaman sailors and fisherman have got it wrong have they and you have discovered this all by yourself, in your quest for proving you know more than countless generations i suggest your mind is open only to self-praise. Your comments express your ignorance of knots only.
 

decorum

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So much passion about a few knots, proper bushcrafters :)
Nah, I don't know that it's much about knots ~ it's a pretty typical response to someone coming in and telling people that they're doing it all wrong and that they should instantly and unquestioningly follow them.
 

knotstar

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Nah, I don't know that it's much about knots ~ it's a pretty typical response to someone coming in and telling people that they're doing it all wrong and that they should instantly and unquestioningly follow them.
Well when someone tries to tell me the Evenk knot can be easily tied with one hand, and just as easily as my new Tarp Knot, then you have to question their sanity...;)
 

decorum

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as easily as my new Tarp Knot, then you have to question their sanity...;)

It's a slipped Overhand Knot* on a loop ~ it's nothing new. Who's accrediting you with having invented this 'new' knot?

* aka Thumb Knot (Slipped or otherwise)



If you're in absolute dire straits, one of your arms has fallen off and it's getting dark tying this knot is far easier to tie one handed if you form the Slipped Overhand Knot first and then take the working end round the tree (or other standing point) and then feed the working end back through the Slipped Overhand Knot.





And southey's ability to tie knots one handed isn't high on the list of things which cause us to doubt his sanity :rofl: .
 
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