knife laws...
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Most cases would go before a magistrates court, and they have a frightening percentage of conviction compared to Crown court.
These offences are relatively minor and the cops would be happy to get you convicted in a magistrates court, they are pretty much guaranteed a conviction. Its still enough to wreck your life or lose you job and your gun licenses.
Crown Court well, that's a whole different story. My advice would be to join an organisation that offers legal protection.
I have 100K's worth of legal protection via The Scottish Association for Country Sports, I would have made a phone call and then let them do the rest.
The police assume that we cannot afford to go to court, and prosecute, but wave 100k of legal insurance in front of them and they will suddenly be not so keen.
Sorry, got to disagree there. Just because something is given a point doesn't automatically qualify it as an offensive weapon. If it is adapted with no other possible use than as a weapon THEN you'll be in the brown stuff. Otherwise it is still just a knife.
Also modding a slipjoint to a lock or even fixed blade isn't making it illegal in itself. If you carry the modded knife without reasonable excuse it becomes an illegal bladed article (not even an offensive weapon!).
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yea illegal was the wrong term, i should have said... well i dont know but you know what i mean.
To some extent it is all a matter of context and circumstance isn't it. I can recall not so many years ago that I was seated in the foyer of an FE college of all places with a deactivated machine gun in my bag. A copper happened to come into the foyer for something else and I could not help thinking "wouldn't you be interested to know what I have in my bag"
I did of course have a quite lawful reason for possession in that said deactivated firearm was prior to my sitting in the foyer, being used as a prop in a performance, but there you go.
The fact that I had something scary in my bag, would never have passed his mind because I was not acting in any way suspiciously.
I did of course have a quite lawful reason for possession in that said deactivated firearm was prior to my sitting in the foyer, being used as a prop in a performance, but there you go.
The fact that I had something scary in my bag, would never have passed his mind because I was not acting in any way suspiciously.
My understanding is that whilst slashing injuries can be very severe, it is stabbing injuries that tend to be those which are the life threatening ones, obviously there are exceptions but that is a pretty good general rule. As such I think the original poster has a point ( no pun intended). There was a bit of a hoohahh a year or so ago when some medical practitioners ( sorry I can't be more precise) suggested this very idea. Personally I think the knife laws we have are as good as they can be.
oh well, you just cant trust people these days not to find a loophole in a law and kill people, or just do it anyway and accept the week in jail.
I agree, most street scum have no idea of where the jugular is and would not know how to sever it with a slash, they just do the obvious and shove the knife in point first( as happened to me)
The big problem is they do not list what knifes are used in crime stats, so you might be able to find out from injuries, but think this would be a nightmare to get evidence for.
My understanding is that the reason we can carry 3" and under is because you cannot stab someone in the heart with that length.
This comes down to a simple thing, what is the point of the whole legal system?
The current Government seems to think it is so they can look good in the press.
The rich do not care because most of the time they buy themselves out of it.
The general public think it is to keep them safe.
Criminals do not care, breaking laws is in the job description, and they know more about it than most lawyers.
Victims know the law is about screwing them.
I should mention Hitler because these threads are getting a bit pointless.
Minotaur,regarding you second sentence, im pretty sure if you stabbed someone with enough force with a 3 inch blade in to the chest you'd have a good chance of hitting the heart, its only under the rib cage,some gov job's worth probably just picked that number out of thin air, or to clamp down on the kitchen type knives being used in stabbings.
as i said originally, i was just questioning something, not trying to create another of these repetitive knife law things.
my question has been answered anyway, and thanks for clearing that up, but could discussions about legal carry knives being used as weapons stop. if you really want to know peoples opinions look at some of the hundreds of other knife law threads on here.
Oh come off it, if I applied sufficient force behind my index finger it would go all the way through, and it is longer than 3 inches.
You could stab someone through the heart with a drinking straw, the law is a complete and total bottom.
Well, he tried.
In view of the OP's actual question, and that we both seem to reckon it's been answered, this thread is closed.
cheers,
Toddy
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