Have got a maxpedition Monsoon which I use for most stuff but have taken to carrying my shelter kit (Hennessy Hammock with Hex fly) in a Jumbo VersiPack.
What other unusual / combos do you use?
What other unusual / combos do you use?
Kit carring systems
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Well, I'm working on a system using a PLCE belt and pouches for water / brew kit, FAK and emergency kit / possibles pouch... Still trying to make it play nicely with my Sabre 45 pack - I'm working on a fairly radical new solution which I will post once I'm happy with it, but basically involves replacing the existing belt with a PLCE belt in such a way that it can be easily detached. I'm hoping that the combo of Sabre 45, side pouches and yoke, and detachable "bat belt" will work as the ultimate modular system.
Hmmm,
Provoking a bit og though there Gregorach,
I've got an old set of '58 webbing and would like to encorporate a more "friendly" big pack to it. And of course some better method of attaching extras to the belt.
Looking forward to seeing your ideas when your happy with your rig.
ATB
Ogri the trog
Provoking a bit og though there Gregorach,
I've got an old set of '58 webbing and would like to encorporate a more "friendly" big pack to it. And of course some better method of attaching extras to the belt.
Looking forward to seeing your ideas when your happy with your rig.
ATB
Ogri the trog
I have a Cyclops Crusader rucksack (somewhat modded and now almost 20 years old). I carry my knife in a sholder holster (inverted carry under the left armpit) with a thumb switch LED mini-maglite + pouch (containing firestarter, spare batteries and lint) on the right side to balance it all up.
I made the holster myself (I'll put some pictures up if you like) and it works very well in hiding the knife and keeping it accessible whilst not becoming a hindrance to the hip belt / chest strap arrangement for the Crusader. I used to use a neck knife but my current one (a Benchmade 10500 Rant Bowie Pardue) is over 16oz and would be a pain in the neck (pardon the pun).
I'd certainly like to see gregorach's pics when they're ready.
And Ogri, I can't stop staring at your avatar....sorry : )
I made the holster myself (I'll put some pictures up if you like) and it works very well in hiding the knife and keeping it accessible whilst not becoming a hindrance to the hip belt / chest strap arrangement for the Crusader. I used to use a neck knife but my current one (a Benchmade 10500 Rant Bowie Pardue) is over 16oz and would be a pain in the neck (pardon the pun).
I'd certainly like to see gregorach's pics when they're ready.
And Ogri, I can't stop staring at your avatar....sorry : )
I use a snugpack rocket pack with side pouches for my main load.
a converted OG PLCE Medics sidepouch which i have aranged so it sits ontop of the main pack like an extra top pocket.
i use a combination of bought and home made Arktis pouches which i pick and choose for each event.
i have aranged it so i can use the pouches as a full webbing set or single ones, also they will fit on my rucksack belt and instead of side pouches if i want!
i to need to send in some photos!
a converted OG PLCE Medics sidepouch which i have aranged so it sits ontop of the main pack like an extra top pocket.
i use a combination of bought and home made Arktis pouches which i pick and choose for each event.
i have aranged it so i can use the pouches as a full webbing set or single ones, also they will fit on my rucksack belt and instead of side pouches if i want!
i to need to send in some photos!
RAPPLEBY2000 said:
I used/use one of these as a brew/food bag - Jetboil, spear canister, boil in the bag food X3, cooking oil, salt pepper, KFS, tea coffee, carnation milk in a tube!!,
You get the idea it was well liked by the kidds I used to take out.
I see a modular theme - PLACE, MOLLE, MALICE. I do like the grab and go idea - Am I the only one or do others have this problem ie if I have a big pack I have to fill it?
I find my Maxpedition Mega Rolly-poly a handy.
Shambling Shaman said:
Not so much that you have to fill it, but it's certainly a lot more tempting to add in that extra bit of kit that just might come in handy if it looks like you've got the space.
Anyway, I've put up this thread about my modified Sabre 45 / PLCE system... I'll be interested to hear what people think.
big bag fill it?
OH YEAH! thats me!
wierd but it's just that way! i guess it's a throw back from times when you carried all your possesions! i think we are all horders of some description.
for 8 months of a outdoor activity instructor course i used a PLCE bergen(125l), which was fine, i was convinced it was normal and sensible......untill.
i did a 3 day expedition in the lakes, even though i had (in my opinion) gone lightweight to an amazing amount, to a silly amount, one of my course mates spent the same time less kit, and a 40l bag?????
How? (to be fair they weight almost the same)
well, over the last few years i have come to respect a couple of "ultralight" ideas,
i already had a tiny 1st aid kit, wash kit, dehydrated food, good sleeping bag, etc etc....
but one thing continued even when i'd get my kit almost perfect,
i'd manage to squeeze in one more thing,
like a book, or extra socks, or a spare water bottle, or a spare....well you can see where it's going.
after a fair bit of consideration i eventually came to the desision:
i am hardly ever going to have the will power NOT to fill my 125l bergen when there's all that lovely space to use.
so i bought a smaller bag!
snugpak Rocket pack (40l) jetpack pockets(15l eachmaking a sensible 70l).
ok, yes it's a bit funny but it helps me no end,
i physically cannot fit everything i used to into my snugpak, but then i didn't need all that stuff anyway!
so now....
i use the main sack for
i have adapted my snugpak rocketpak)
sleeping bag/bivibag
spare clothes
warm jacket
and food(i can get a days food worth in an A4 size envelope).
in the top pocket:
notebook, pen,diary, money, keys, torch, spare batteries.
inside top poocket
a tiny wash kit, tiny towel, any medication.
side pouches:
waterproofs in one, hat, gloves,scarf in the other
then on my belt:
1st aid pouch: ist aid box, saftey pins and 1 small FFD.
waterbottle pouch: 58 bottle, cup, metal mug with lid, cooker, spoon, milbank bag.
butt pouch basha kit, work/hot gloves, coke can burner, bottles of meths, drinks kit, lighter, tissues spare paracord.
waterbottle pouch: 58 bottle.
tool pouch: gerber multitool, sharpener, lighter, flint, minicompas/whistle, colins gem, food for free, Aide memoiure (book i've made on useful facts)waterproof notebook, saber saw.
also i use an MoD survival knife in a home made/adapted pouch, with 2 sharpeners.
ok thats rucksack and webbing pouches.
the top medic pouch i usually carry my fireligting demo kit in.
thats my stay for a week at a bushcraft campsite kit,
if i were hillwalking my list would be very different,
hardly any metal items,
no webbing pouches,
i would fit it all in my rucksack,
prehaps using the medic pouch for kit to get some of the weight above my shoulders (I'm able to because of my adaption).
after 20 years of scouts,
survival,
camping,
TA,
survivalism,
hillwalking,
survival,
ultralightweight,
bushcraft,
and more recently hammock camping.........................
..........(breaks into song).......................
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************" i still cannot find what i'm looking for!" 
**********************************************************************************************************************************************************
OH YEAH! thats me!
wierd but it's just that way! i guess it's a throw back from times when you carried all your possesions! i think we are all horders of some description.
for 8 months of a outdoor activity instructor course i used a PLCE bergen(125l), which was fine, i was convinced it was normal and sensible......untill.
i did a 3 day expedition in the lakes, even though i had (in my opinion) gone lightweight to an amazing amount, to a silly amount, one of my course mates spent the same time less kit, and a 40l bag?????
How? (to be fair they weight almost the same)
well, over the last few years i have come to respect a couple of "ultralight" ideas,
i already had a tiny 1st aid kit, wash kit, dehydrated food, good sleeping bag, etc etc....
but one thing continued even when i'd get my kit almost perfect,
i'd manage to squeeze in one more thing,
like a book, or extra socks, or a spare water bottle, or a spare....well you can see where it's going.
after a fair bit of consideration i eventually came to the desision:
i am hardly ever going to have the will power NOT to fill my 125l bergen when there's all that lovely space to use.
so i bought a smaller bag!
snugpak Rocket pack (40l) jetpack pockets(15l eachmaking a sensible 70l).
ok,
yes it's a bit funny but it helps me no end, i physically cannot fit everything i used to into my snugpak, but then i didn't need all that stuff anyway!
so now....
i use the main sack for
i have adapted my snugpak rocketpak)sleeping bag/bivibag
spare clothes
warm jacket
and food(i can get a days food worth in an A4 size envelope).
in the top pocket:
notebook, pen,diary, money, keys, torch, spare batteries.
inside top poocket
a tiny wash kit, tiny towel, any medication.
side pouches:
waterproofs in one, hat, gloves,scarf in the other
then on my belt:
1st aid pouch: ist aid box, saftey pins and 1 small FFD.
waterbottle pouch: 58 bottle, cup, metal mug with lid, cooker, spoon, milbank bag.
butt pouch basha kit, work/hot gloves, coke can burner, bottles of meths, drinks kit, lighter, tissues spare paracord.
waterbottle pouch: 58 bottle.
tool pouch: gerber multitool, sharpener, lighter, flint, minicompas/whistle, colins gem, food for free, Aide memoiure (book i've made on useful facts)waterproof notebook, saber saw.
also i use an MoD survival knife in a home made/adapted pouch, with 2 sharpeners.
ok thats rucksack and webbing pouches.
the top medic pouch i usually carry my fireligting demo kit in.
thats my stay for a week at a bushcraft campsite kit,
if i were hillwalking my list would be very different,
hardly any metal items,
no webbing pouches,
i would fit it all in my rucksack,
prehaps using the medic pouch for kit to get some of the weight above my shoulders (I'm able to because of my adaption).
after 20 years of scouts,
survival,
camping,
TA,
survivalism,
hillwalking,
survival,
ultralightweight,
bushcraft,
and more recently hammock camping.........................
..........(breaks into song).......................
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************" i still cannot find what i'm looking for!"
**********************************************************************************************************************************************************
Yes - I to have got a smaller pack and have 1/2 the spare stuf I carry. Allways carrie 3L of water.
On my ML trainining I had the biggest pack and the heavyest not supprizing as I had 3L box of wine & 6 cans of beer!! not all mine, just had the space so carried it for others (idiot).
On my ML trainining I had the biggest pack and the heavyest not supprizing as I had 3L box of wine & 6 cans of beer!! not all mine, just had the space so carried it for others (idiot).
Talking of heavy kit - I went on one trip where a guy was complaining of a heavy pack. Once we reached base camp, I discovered that he was carrying 8 litres of water (for a 2 day trip), and two large glass jars (1 filled with coffee and the other with whitener).
On another trip that I was leading in the Lake District (bunch of school kids), 1 of the lads became very upset with his pack. I found a full (cold) hot water bottle in his rucksack. His mother had packed it. Since it was summer and we weren't camping (and he had no way of heating the water save for leaving it out in the sun), I'm not sure what he intended on using it for.
I regularly carried 50-60+lbs packs. Not anymore - that's why I modded my crusader (100l) to a more manageable size (it's more like 50l now).
On another trip that I was leading in the Lake District (bunch of school kids), 1 of the lads became very upset with his pack. I found a full (cold) hot water bottle in his rucksack. His mother had packed it. Since it was summer and we weren't camping (and he had no way of heating the water save for leaving it out in the sun), I'm not sure what he intended on using it for.
I regularly carried 50-60+lbs packs. Not anymore - that's why I modded my crusader (100l) to a more manageable size (it's more like 50l now).
As a member of my local mountain rescue team I find it hard to get out of the just in case mind set - On any walk out of the house I normal carry what would be needed for a comfortable one night stop-over? but I do have a habit of wandering off.
That said and back to topic Modular is the way to go if you can hit the happy medium.
(a) not so many pouches that thay weigh more than your main pack
(b) You cant remember were any thing is.
and
(c) If you are required to out run some wild beast (or be first to the bar) pouches and or contence are not flying off every witch way.
That said and back to topic Modular is the way to go if you can hit the happy medium.
(a) not so many pouches that thay weigh more than your main pack
(b) You cant remember were any thing is.
and
(c) If you are required to out run some wild beast (or be first to the bar) pouches and or contence are not flying off every witch way.
I'm not too sure how big it will be, it must be worn around the waist or diagonally across the body, so that gives it some sense of size. I knew someone here would like it, I was searching for a swedish smock to see how many were on ebay, I may buy one later in the year, and saw it. I quite like it as a bit of kit, but don't think I'd use it. Are you going to bid on it? If you do, hopefully no one else here will bid against you!
I come on here and always get totally side tracked!! I see a thread and start looking for similar items on ebay. The Viper Modular Vest System is the next one I've found! It's in green and looks just as good as a set of webbing, only thing is each item is sold seperatley, so the cost may add up!
I have one of those Swedish pouched belts and used to use it a lot travelling in India. Brilliant and lots of useful pockets approx 5"x5". A complete change of silk clothes will fit into just two pouches,money in another,fags and ods and sods in the rest + bananas and vegatable samosas! Would love to chop it up BUT it is such a nice piece of kit I haven't the heart. A bit like a possibles pouch but lots of!
I have ideas of incorporating it into my webbing but they have not progressed any further than just thinking about it.
I have ideas of incorporating it into my webbing but they have not progressed any further than just thinking about it.
Excessive Kit? Has any one followed thist regime of packing.
Pack you pack - go and enjoy make list of every thing you used.
Return - unpack three piles one pile what you used / one pile stuff you have to have but did not use (first aid kit ect).
And the pile you did not use.
Next trip only pack the first two piles...............
Great willpower.....I might start with some thing easer first like giving up coffee
Pack you pack - go and enjoy make list of every thing you used.
Return - unpack three piles one pile what you used / one pile stuff you have to have but did not use (first aid kit ect).
And the pile you did not use.
Next trip only pack the first two piles...............
Great willpower.....I might start with some thing easer first like giving up coffee
Shambling Shaman said:Excessive Kit? Has any one followed thist regime of packing.
Pack you pack - go and enjoy make list of every thing you used.
Return - unpack three piles one pile what you used / one pile stuff you have to have but did not use (first aid kit ect).
And the pile you did not use.
Next trip only pack the first two piles...............
Great willpower.....I might start with some thing easer first like giving up coffee
Yup, I've used a smiliar technique before and it can be very helpful for the pack horse hiker. The other way is to list everything that goes in and mark it off when it gets used. After a few trips everything that ends up with a score (or is truly essential) stays, the rest goes.
But giving up coffee?!?! Are you insane? I'd rather carry all my gear in a rucksack made out of toilet paper.
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