We really do need a sticky for members' recommended sites. The two here are how all sites used to be but are now becoming rare: they need to be encouraged. I've just been asked by my son for the details of a site we used in France when the boys were small only to find it now has cabins, swimming pool, disco etc. and this is happening in England too. A farm I camped on in Devon as a teenager is now run by the Camping Club and has hardstandings everywhere, a list of regulations as long as your arm and treats tent campers with patronising tolerance- all in the name of progress!