Guyline Tensioner Puzzle

[bren73]

Hi Folks, I just got a new tent and can’t work out how the guyline tensioners work.

The instructions are no use as they show a different type of tensioner (the triangular kind.) And I can’t seem to find this type anywhere on Google or YouTube.

Any help would be massively appreciated

 

[C_Claycomb]

I reckon that you thread the cord to be tightened through, pull tight, then throw a loop of the line under tension around the line lock, like the Dutchware Tarpworms. maybe wrapping the tail around would work. I am sure it is a wrap lock though.

 

[bren73]

I reckon that you thread the cord to be tightened through, pull tight, then throw a loop of the line under tension around the line lock, like the Dutchware Tarpworms. maybe wrapping the tail around would work. I am sure it is a wrap lock though.

Nice suggestion, I watched a Tarpworm video and tried it, but it doesn’t seem to grab it properly Also there isn’t a tail as such as that end would be attached to the tent.

I’ve emailed the manufacturer to see what they say…fingers crossed.

In the meantime the best I can come up with is to pass it through the ‘jaws’ bit of it twice, which kind of works but isn’t very adjustable. As it’s a silnylon tent I would have thought it would need a bit of tightening when it gets wet.

 

[Billy-o]

... deleted that. It was the wrong one

 

[bren73]

Does this help?

DDY Ultralight Aluminum Guyline Cord Adjuster for Tent Camping Hiking Backpacking Outdoor Activity(red Color 10pcs) : Amazon.ca: Sports & Outdoors

DDY Ultralight Aluminum Guyline Cord Adjuster for Tent Camping Hiking Backpacking Outdoor Activity(red Color 10pcs) : Amazon.ca: Sports & Outdoors

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Unfortunately not, different setup from those…weirdly tho I bought some of them last year and I might just use them as they work perfectly well and adjust easily.

 

[Nice65]

I wouldn’t bother wondering about how they work, you could have unpacked that tent in a storm and ended up soaked because it’s not obvious. Take them off and put some of the rings on, they’re really easy.

 

[Stew]

Personally I’m a fan of the cam cleat design if you’re swapping them out.

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[bren73]

Thanks folks You are right, I’m going to swap them out for something else…I would still like to know how those ones are supposed to work tho, and why Jack Wolfskin think they are better than the cam cleats they used to supply on the tent.

 

[Stew]

Pondering this more, I think your wrapping is correct but with the option to add more wraps to make it more stable then to adjust unwrap.

Maybe.

 

[Billy-o]

I find just using the sliding knot and leave them in place when packing up works

How to Tie the Taut-Line Hitch Knot - The Best Camping Knot | The Summit Register

From guying-out a tent, to hanging a bear bag, to tying a load to your pack, the Taut-Line Hitch is one of the handiest all-purpose knots.

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[bren73]

I find just using the sliding knot and leave them in place when packing up works

How to Tie the Taut-Line Hitch Knot - The Best Camping Knot | The Summit Register

From guying-out a tent, to hanging a bear bag, to tying a load to your pack, the Taut-Line Hitch is one of the handiest all-purpose knots.

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Yes, I like the idea of no hardware.

 

[C_Claycomb]

Tending to agree with Stew. The shape looks like there is room for at least two wraps

 

[C_Claycomb]

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For the last few years I have been one of several people running a tarp and knot workshop at the BushcraftUK summer Bush Moot. More than once I have wished that I had pictures that I could post of the knots that we demonstrate, to make it easier for people to go away and practice at home. The...

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This is what I have used for years.

Of late I have made tarps with ribbon anchored plastic lineloc 3s. Which are faster than re tying knots each time.

For info. The tensioners in question here are made by Duraflex, a National Molding brand, but it does not appear in their catalogue, so no easy way to find a product name to aid a search.

 

[bren73]

Tarpology Knots

For the last few years I have been one of several people running a tarp and knot workshop at the BushcraftUK summer Bush Moot. More than once I have wished that I had pictures that I could post of the knots that we demonstrate, to make it easier for people to go away and practice at home. The...

bushcraftuk.com

This is what I have used for years.

Of late I have made tarps with ribbon anchored plastic lineloc 3s. Which are faster than re tying knots each time.

For info. The tensioners in question here are made by Duraflex, a National Molding brand, but it does not appear in their catalogue, so no easy way to find a product name to aid a search.

Yeah, I just can’t seem to find any info on them.

 

[lostplanet]

Sorry if stating obvious, whats on the the tent end? is it maybe a hook for quick release and the tensioner is on the tent? similar to this?

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[lostplanet]

Found it: (I can sleep now )

Jack Wolfskin Lighthouse III RT

Planning to leave civilization behind and head off into the wilderness? The Jack Wolfskin LIGHTHOUSE III RT has enough space to accommodate three people on trekking trips of several weeks’ duration. Jack Wolfskin has made this tent to a very lightweight specification so you can carry it...

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Looks blumin complex though??

 

[Nice65]

Found it: (I can sleep now )
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Jack Wolfskin Lighthouse III RT

Planning to leave civilization behind and head off into the wilderness? The Jack Wolfskin LIGHTHOUSE III RT has enough space to accommodate three people on trekking trips of several weeks’ duration. Jack Wolfskin has made this tent to a very lightweight specification so you can carry it...

www.snowcountry.eu

Looks blumin complex though??

Too complicated. I mucked about with these things for a while on the hammock tarp. The Nite Ize Figure 9.

https://www.armysales.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2529

I suppose, like knots, they need familiarity to be used quickly when needed. When you’re just setting up in the rain or wind and don’t have a clue because you haven’t used them in the last year or so then it needs to be KISS.

 

[bren73]

Found it: (I can sleep now )
View attachment 72415

Jack Wolfskin Lighthouse III RT

Planning to leave civilization behind and head off into the wilderness? The Jack Wolfskin LIGHTHOUSE III RT has enough space to accommodate three people on trekking trips of several weeks’ duration. Jack Wolfskin has made this tent to a very lightweight specification so you can carry it...

www.snowcountry.eu

Looks blumin complex though??

Top detective work [mention]lostplanet [/mention] I then found the pdf manual for that tent and it had this diagram to explain how to rig the tensioner.

So I had eventually guessed correctly on how it works…however it’s too late now as it is a PITA to adjust it compared to other options, so I’ve replaced them with cam locks

To answer your earlier question, there is nothing else on the line and just loops on the tent, it is just a length of cord with a loop and one of these at the end.

 

[bren73]

Too complicated. I mucked about with these things for a while on the hammock tarp. The Nite Ize Figure 9.

https://www.armysales.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2529

I suppose, like knots, they need familiarity to be used quickly when needed. When you’re just setting up in the rain or wind and don’t have a clue because you haven’t used them in the last year or so then it needs to be KISS.

I agree, I camp in Scotland so it has to be quick and simple

 

[Stew]

Well done!