the look what we found meals state their gluten free on the back of the pack.
i have chicken tikka/korma/meatballs/bolognase and all state gluten free.
i have chicken tikka/korma/meatballs/bolognase and all state gluten free.
Gluten Free camp cooking?
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Your hush puppies (those are shoes here :yikes: )I would think of more like pakora. The cornbread sounds much like our soda bread with an egg in it. Good plain food and quickly and easily made. Good for camp too since it doesn't need rising.
Interesting
cheers,
M
Your soda bread (or at least Irish soda bread) is similar to our biscuits. At least sorta. Our biscuits are a similar quickbread recipe but usually patted out to a size somewhat smaller than a doughnut As you say, they are all plain simple food easily done. A southern favorite is to serve biscuits (American bicuits) split with butter and fig preserves inside. Good news as there is also a GF version/recipe for them as well by substituting a GF flour and adding a small bit of zanthum for texture.
Our local supermarket stocks a range of gluten free (GF) flour in the baking section.
Last trip we baked GF damper (for a GF friend) using our usual recipe. Regardless of what GF flour is like, when its hot from the fire, its lovely.
Last trip we baked GF damper (for a GF friend) using our usual recipe. Regardless of what GF flour is like, when its hot from the fire, its lovely.
Begs the question, doesn't it?
Why should a meal need a "main carb element"?
Here's the (short) answer as to why people think it does.
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(1) Until about 1970 everyone was well-aware that although carbohydrate-rich foods make you put on weight (probably because they spike insulin) they ate plenty of them, principally because they were a large part of the diet in industrialized countries for historical reasons -- for which, read mainly because they're cheap. Bad for health: but cheap:
http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/EvolutionPaleolithic/Cereal Sword.pdf
(2) A damn fool (Ancel Keys) decided that because arterial plaque contains fat, it "must have" got there from dietary fat. A kindergarten assumption: the body if far more complex than that. Keys "proved" this with a "7 Countries" study ... that, incidentally, threw away data from a number of countries besides the 7 that didn't fit his hypothesis. Up to date scientific research conclusively disproves that:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20071648
(2 a) An aside for the patriotic: Keys was an American and spent an inordinate amount of time badmouthing a Briton, John Yudkin, who had the highly plausible (and probably true) counter-hypothesis that the culprit in heart disease was refined carbohydrate, and principally sugar.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pure-White-Deadly-diabetes-completely/dp/0670808199/
(3) People, aware that carbs were fattening (see (1)) but afraid for their hearts (see (2)), began to cast around for an alternative way to lose weight. They decided that low-calorie diets were the answer. Experience actually shows that was a bad idea: it's WHAT you eat that matters:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-We-Get-Fat-about/dp/0307949435/
(4) The U.S.D.A (United States Department of Agriculture) hung its hat on Keys' Diet-Heart Hypothesis and told Americans to stuff themselves with carbohydrate. Hence the epidemic of obesity over there. The U.S.D.A now won't retract -- in the teeth of the evidence --
http://www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/S0899-9007(10)00289-3/fulltext
-- it's not about to, because ... well, when you think it about U.S. agriculture revolves around the production of huge quantities of grain. And, after all, the U.S.D.A. is responsible for agriculture not health. The U.S. Government subsidises grain-production.
(5) Governments all round the world have taken their cue from what the U.S. recommends.
(6) Your grilfried is made ill, because her eating habits are based on what is best for U.S. agriculture.
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Hmmmm ... just hmmm ... What can you say?
The BBC, a pretty stupid and broekn organ itself has finally lumbered awake and made a series that covers some of this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01jxzv8/sign/The_Men_Who_Made_Us_Fat_Episode_1/
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To address the question directly:
Potatoes are heavy to carry -- because of the water content. Rice is fairly kind to most people's stomachs. But, really you don't need either. Proprietary gluten-free foods are horrifically expensive, and while they may cause fewer auto-immune reactions for many people, often spike insulin WORSE than wheat bread would. Much more on this here from a cardiologist who gets all his patients off wheat ... and then off replacement gluten-free junk foods, too:
http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/
What to carry? Make some pemmican. It's a travel food that's sustained native peoples across millenia, as the brilliant explorer and anthropologist Vilhjalmur Stefansson explains here:
http://owndoc.com/pdf/The-fat-of-the-land.pdf
1. Probably because humans aren't generally evolved for a carnivorous diet (yes fruits and veg are carbs also)
2. The number one agricultural commodity in the US isn't grain (at least not for human consumption) it's timber, followed by beef and pork (for which 80% of that grain crop is grown)
3. The USDA IS responsible for health as well as that's the agency that also approves and regulates drugs (the FDA is a subordinate org. to the USDA)
4, Rampant obesity over here is due to availability of fat, greasy foods common in our diets and the simple fact that sugary drinks have increased from a 6 ounce serving in the 1940s to endless free refills now. Granted the USDA RECCOMMENDS a higher carb (65% of total dietary calories) lower fat diet; NO ONE follows it.
Don't beleive it? Then explain to me why currently the healthiest populations in the world (judging by low obesity and longevity rates) are the Japanese with a high rice and low red meat diet.
2. The number one agricultural commodity in the US isn't grain (at least not for human consumption) it's timber, followed by beef and pork (for which 80% of that grain crop is grown)
3. The USDA IS responsible for health as well as that's the agency that also approves and regulates drugs (the FDA is a subordinate org. to the USDA)
4, Rampant obesity over here is due to availability of fat, greasy foods common in our diets and the simple fact that sugary drinks have increased from a 6 ounce serving in the 1940s to endless free refills now. Granted the USDA RECCOMMENDS a higher carb (65% of total dietary calories) lower fat diet; NO ONE follows it.
Don't beleive it? Then explain to me why currently the healthiest populations in the world (judging by low obesity and longevity rates) are the Japanese with a high rice and low red meat diet.
Some interesting comments above ref carbohydrates, etc.
What I would like to point out is that a couple of studies that disagree with an idea do not necessarily mean it's wrong. The overwhelming current epidemiological evidence is that high levels of saturated fat in the diet lead to a higher incidence of cardio-vascular disease - reduction in saturated fat leads to better prognosis: fact. Furthermore, the idea that most people do better without grains is also unfounded in science and based mainly on anecdotal 'evidence'. Humans have been doing well for centuries on grain-based foods and, arguably, would not have advanced to our current state had we not begun farming and production of grains. The removal of food groups from the diet for no medically-based reason is not to be recommended as malnutrition is frequently the result.
The guidelines given by the UK government and NHS are evidence-based guidelines. That means that numerous people who have expertise in nutrition, physiology and epidemiology get together, examine the available high-quality evidence, and make decisions that are best for the population. Of course, individuals may see otherwise and those, for example, who are coeliac, cannot follow the guidelines for the general population. However, the point is that making statements like 'carbohydrates are bad' is unhelpful - carbohydrates have not caused the current obesity epidemic, it is combination of genetic susceptibility and an obesogenic environment (low physical activity, high intake of cheap, available energy-dense food). A balanced healthy diet, high in fruit and veg and low in saturated fats and processed meat is proven to be best for the population as a whole (not that we do it...). Fad diets (Atkinsons, paleo, OMG, etc) will come and go, and oddly enough, we always come back to something along the lines of the 'Eatwell Plate' (Google it).
This thread originally began as a request for advice on gluten-free camp food and there have been lots of great suggestions. I'm not sure how we ended up on conspiracy theories and exclusion dieting.
What I would like to point out is that a couple of studies that disagree with an idea do not necessarily mean it's wrong. The overwhelming current epidemiological evidence is that high levels of saturated fat in the diet lead to a higher incidence of cardio-vascular disease - reduction in saturated fat leads to better prognosis: fact. Furthermore, the idea that most people do better without grains is also unfounded in science and based mainly on anecdotal 'evidence'. Humans have been doing well for centuries on grain-based foods and, arguably, would not have advanced to our current state had we not begun farming and production of grains. The removal of food groups from the diet for no medically-based reason is not to be recommended as malnutrition is frequently the result.
The guidelines given by the UK government and NHS are evidence-based guidelines. That means that numerous people who have expertise in nutrition, physiology and epidemiology get together, examine the available high-quality evidence, and make decisions that are best for the population. Of course, individuals may see otherwise and those, for example, who are coeliac, cannot follow the guidelines for the general population. However, the point is that making statements like 'carbohydrates are bad' is unhelpful - carbohydrates have not caused the current obesity epidemic, it is combination of genetic susceptibility and an obesogenic environment (low physical activity, high intake of cheap, available energy-dense food). A balanced healthy diet, high in fruit and veg and low in saturated fats and processed meat is proven to be best for the population as a whole (not that we do it...). Fad diets (Atkinsons, paleo, OMG, etc) will come and go, and oddly enough, we always come back to something along the lines of the 'Eatwell Plate' (Google it).
This thread originally began as a request for advice on gluten-free camp food and there have been lots of great suggestions. I'm not sure how we ended up on conspiracy theories and exclusion dieting.
