European centric ?

[demented dale]

I wondered if there was eg a bushcraft.fr or bushcraft.es - this is maybe not the same question as the OP. Also if some of this bushcraft stuff could be driven by a survivalist POV, which in my experience is a particularly American notion. I prefer the idea there are people who just like messing about outdoors rather than some mentalist agenda of Armageddon. More multilingual sites indicates the former more sanity driven.

Not me. I am not messing about outdoors. I am insanely driven by a mentalist Armageddon agenda. lol. love it DD xxxx

 

[ONE]

I wondered if there was eg a bushcraft.fr or bushcraft.es - this is maybe not the same question as the OP. Also if some of this bushcraft stuff could be driven by a survivalist POV, which in my experience is a particularly American notion. I prefer the idea there are people who just like messing about outdoors rather than some mentalist agenda of Armageddon. More multilingual sites indicates the former more sanity driven.

My experience of France is that you don't find many buscrafters per se, but you'll find people with a 'bushcraft' skill set in comparatively greater numbers than you do here. Without staying too far into the political, they have a minor party, LMR (Le Mouvement de la Ruralité) which while almost by definition of it's aims is conservative/right leaning claims to be centrist, YMMV with that. The point being that ruralism, hunting, fishing and agrarianism have political representation at a national level, which we can't really claim. There is also a fairly full-on survivalist/retreater movement perhaps not just on the level of that seen in the States, but again much more developed than that in UK or Ireland and rather more open, they have expos in conference centres with dinners, lectures & trade stands for instance openly advertised and sitting comfortably alongside industry & trade conferences.

Once you hit rural France, you'll encounter la chasse, the hunt, it has its controversies which I'm not going to comment on, but while there are certainly some idiots involved, in every chasse you'll encounter those who skills at say, 'living off the land' are developed to a degree that would have people here running bushcraft courses! On the flip side there can be an aversion to lighting fires that in places extends the use of stoves, many French bivouac-ers will exist on the almost cliché bread, sausage, cheese and wine in the sticks and I've heard it said that the difference between a land owner offering you fruit or raw milk of a morning and meeting you with a shotgun to make his point can be whether or not you lit a fire, never actually encountered that though.

We're just too far away from all that, in most cases anyway, so we have bushcraft, for those of us who want a taste.

 

[Herman30]

France also has a little bit more rough land compared to UK.
France is roughly same size as UK + Scotland + Ireland + the Irish Sea.

 

[ONE]

France also has a little bit more rough land compared to UK.
France is roughly same size as UK + Scotland + Ireland + the Irish Sea.

A heck of a lot, and some real wild game. That's kinda my point, we have "bushcraft" as a hobby, a compromise, that allows people on small, comparatively crowded islands to do things that people who live elsewhere do routinely, almost as part of day to day life still. It's a generalisation of course but we're looking at who does "bushcraft".

 

[HillBill]

Not me. I am not messing about outdoors. I am insanely driven by a mentalist Armageddon agenda. lol. love it DD xxxx

Then take up deep caving. As the woods will not be a safe place during such a thing. Buy Scuba gear before solar panels.

 

[TeeDee]

Then take up deep caving. As the woods will not be a safe place during such a thing. Buy Scuba gear before solar panels.

I swear - the later the posting , the crazier the forum gets.

 

[demented dale]

Then take up deep caving. As the woods will not be a safe place during such a thing. Buy Scuba gear before solar panels.

i am not bothered really. i just loved his choice of words. i am pretty chilled. hope you well xxx

 

[slaine_23]

Once you hit rural France, you'll encounter la chasse

Yes sometimes on the way to work you’d meet groups of guys on the side of the road loaded with hunting guns, solonac and sometimes pastis. Or in the local decathlon some guy peeling off his 50eur notes for the new gun he was buying.
Interesting comment about fires, makes sense in red zones particularly at dry times of year.

 

[slaine_23]

Then take up deep caving. As the woods will not be a safe place during such a thing. Buy Scuba gear before solar panels.

And spear guns, lots of spear guns.
The next bushcraft fad.

Apparently sharks and the likes will home in on the sound of a spear gun being used as they will take the fish of the spear, easy meat, which is probably quite scary for the fisherman.