Dyneema ?

[Dippa]

I'm trying to change my tarps ridgeline and guy lines from paracord to something better.

I keep reading people are using dyneema but I'm completely lost lol

Please correct me if this is wrong but I'm guessing dyneema isn't the cord, just the mechanics that goes into it ?

So all these cords people use, SK78, zing-it, lash-it, stein skyline, throw line and so on are just like brands ?


If not then I'm completely confused lol


What can people recommend from here, which will easily tie knots and won't get tangled too easily

 

[sunndog]

Dyneema is the cord and zing-it ect are brand names.

It is better than paracord but it doesnt like knots too much so we generally use various doodads and hardware instead of knotting......now you are really going down the rabbit hole of hammocking lol

Check dutwaregear.com if you really want to get confused

Tarp flyz for the ridgelines, tarp fleaz on the corners and 1.8mm dyneema are about the most popular/easiest to use

 

[Dippa]

Thanks sunndog, that's explained a lot

I think I'm already half way down this rabbit hole lol I'll defo go check that site, see how I get on.

Any suggestions where to get some olive green 1.8mm dyneema ?

 

[sunndog]

Never seen any in olive that i can remember. Its usually pretty colourful stuff, you might get a bright green or maybe blue

I use arborist throwline cos i buy that anyway


Another option though might be 2mm double braid dyneema. All the advantages of single braid (zing-it) except its a little heavier, but it takes knots better

 

[Dippa]

Never seen any in olive that i can remember. Its usually pretty colourful stuff, you might get a bright green or maybe blue

I use arborist throwline cos i buy that anyway


Another option though might be 2mm double braid dyneema. All the advantages of single braid (zing-it) except its a little heavier, but it takes knots better

Thanksmate, seems to be plenty of options out there

Do you happen to have a link to where you buy yours if you don't mind sharing ?

 

[sunndog]

Yeah any arb place will have it

F.r jones

Honey bros

Buxtons

The last time i got some double braid it was from backpackinglight.com

English braids will likely have double braid too

One thing to note is if you fancy any dutchware then 1.8mm does work best with it

 

[Dippa]

Ah that explains the English braids I keep coming across.

Thanks a lot Sunndog, you've been a great help here mate! I will trial a few and see what works for me

Is amsteel any good or is this overkill ?

 

[sunndog]

Overkill for a tarp really dude. Although one school of thought is to use an amsteel continuous ridgeline in the hope it will take some of the impact force out of any branches falling on you

 

[sunndog]

Just to give an idea how we use hardware

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqIch3GdQ1bJFK92zBiioqmsRhTRBJn8W

 

[Terry.m.]

It's more for sailing yachts tbh , high end rope.
You cert do not need it for camping / bushcraft...

 

[Nice65]

It's more for sailing yachts tbh , high end rope.
You cert do not need it for camping / bushcraft...

I'd agree. I use 3mm paracord for the ridge, tied very tight and running under the tarp. Prussics on the ends for tightening. and 1.5mm bright reflective for tie outs. I've got about 25 feet of Dyneema still unused due to it not taking a knot very well.

 

[sunndog]

The main reasons dyneema is prefered over paracord is strength to weight/bulk ratio. 1.5mm is almost as strong as genuine 550 paracord (prolly stronger after you've knotted the paracord)
Another very practical reason for using dyneema is its low stretch value. When using ultralight tarps made of silnylon thats stretch when they get wet you don't need super stretchy paracord making the situation worse. Dyneema is also far less absorbant than paracord

In another thread the op tells us weight is extremely important to him. To save weight you often have to go up a few tiers in what materials you use

 

[FlashPan]

What put me on to Dyneema myself was this youtube from Tac Blades

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdTqIAkT4qA&t=265s

Have bought some in olive/green and works great. Only thing I think that needs to be considered is using it in wet or slippery conditions may require some good gloves.