Does it really work? Plant remedies and your actual experinces.

franglais

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We have a False Acacia in the garden and when it flowers my wife suffers terrible hayfever, eating False Acacia honey certainly eases the problem.
 

xylaria

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
that's something I don't get, we have something called plantain but its just an edible leaf (compared too some of the
stuff people say is edible and swear by, but is actually gross and tastes of poison) this leaf isn't bad at all,
it unfortunately is not fruit bearing, just a stumpy little weed. Shame as I love fried plantain.
Anyone know if they are related or just a qerk of the English language?

I presume it was some sort entemology thing that happened 500 years ago. A big enough stand of ribwort does give off a banana like smell when in pollen, maybe the tudor explorers thought they were related. It could be due to if sailors were living off hardtack and pickles, finding a crop of banana/plantians would provide them same relief as eating our plantago seeds.
 

Goatboy

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Purely a placebo effect franglais, there is no scientific evidence to support the claim that honeys eases hay fever.

Aye it's medieval all this natural stuff, putting honey on wounds, maggots, seaweed wound dressings and that acetylsalicylic acid in willow will never catch on either :rolleyes:
 

The Survivor

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Not exactly a plant, but it does have some extracts, and it is green, so here goes...

Coke cures diarrhea when chilled and drunk from a glass!
 

falling rain

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Oct 17, 2003
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that's something I don't get, we have something called plantain but its just an edible leaf (compared too some of the
stuff people say is edible and swear by, but is actually gross and tastes of poison) this leaf isn't bad at all,
it unfortunately is not fruit bearing, just a stumpy little weed. Shame as I love fried plantain.
Anyone know if they are related or just a qerk of the English language?

The plantains I'm talking of are wild plants that grow in Britain and I believe the US (I read somewhere that it was taken to the US by the settlers and know as 'white mans footprint' by the native indians as it grows near hard packed soil where the wagons had been) It does indeed like hard packed soil and can often be found on footpath edges and lawns - Ribwort plantain (Plantago lanceolata) Hoary plantain (plantago media) and Greater plantain (plantago major) are the latin names - Most people know to use dock leaves for nettle stings but any of the plantains are far superior in my opinion. The dried or fresh leaves made into a tea can relieve a cough too amongst many other uses. Fantastic plants to get to know.
 

Dreadhead

Bushcrafter through and through
some great ideas on this thread!

my two pence: i lived with an open wound for over 2 years and tried just about everything the nhs had to offer. my miracle cure was manuka honey, the good natural stuff :) worked a treat against infections and really improved the healing process. now anytime i have a cut or wound i reach for the honey
 

Goatboy

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I was sitting outside last night and the midge were bugging me and my repellents were elsewhere. I've got Herb Robert Geranium robertianum everywhere at the moment (try getting rid of the stuff). I'd read that it can be used against midge so crushed some up and rubbed into skin. Worked OK, was getting the occasional one through but better than before. Can also be used for a plethora of other things too from anti-fungal mouthwash to the research that's being done with it as an anti-cancer treatment. It's also nice in a salad.
 

Chris the Cat

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You reach for the honey and what? Dh.
Just drizzle some on? under a dressing?
Interesting.
I use balsam pine sap ( from the small blisters on the trees ) for small cuts.

Best.

Chris.
 

santaman2000

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some great ideas on this thread!

my two pence: i lived with an open wound for over 2 years and tried just about everything the nhs had to offer. my miracle cure was manuka honey, the good natural stuff :) worked a treat against infections and really improved the healing process. now anytime i have a cut or wound i reach for the honey

I lived with an open wound on my back shoulder for about a year (albeit a small one) I ignored it as insignificant until I finally asked my Dr about it. He removed and sent it to lab along with another biopsy from my head. They both tested positive as skin cancers; the one on my head, benign, the one from my shoulder, malignant.

Excess sunlight is NOT a natural cure.
 

rik_uk3

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Aye it's medieval all this natural stuff, putting honey on wounds, maggots, seaweed wound dressings and that acetylsalicylic acid in willow will never catch on either :rolleyes:

We use honey/sugar dressing and they are effective on wounds, Wales were the first to bring back maggot therapy too (and I applied them a good few times to patients after training) :) and no, you can't just use any old maggots you have in the fridge for your next fishing trip, these are bred for the purpose. Aspirin works very well, it really is a wonder drug but its been clinically trialed, peer reviewed and is offered at a controlled dose, not some brew you knock up at home from a bit of willow :rolleyes: All this homoeopathy stuff is a bit of fun but for crying out loud don't rely on it for anything more than the very simplest of health problems, problems that would in fact self heal most of the time if left alone.
 

Ivan...

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I can't beat Dreadheads 2 year open wound! But i had one on my back after an op, about 2inches deep for 19 weeks, infected i will admit (dr sewed live tissue to dead, prat) antibiotics (Amoxicillin, might as well eat smarties!) Mag Sulph paste for 16 weeks, to allow the wound to granulate, all a waste of time (dressing's twice a day) Then took the manuka honey and tape route, and wound healed nicely in about 3 weeks.

I am afraid i have little faith in antibiotics, and just last year, after contracting Lymes, i was on them for 6 weeks! Which i am sure contributed to me feeling lousy.

Ivan...
 

Goatboy

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We use honey/sugar dressing and they are effective on wounds, Wales were the first to bring back maggot therapy too (and I applied them a good few times to patients after training) :) and no, you can't just use any old maggots you have in the fridge for your next fishing trip, these are bred for the purpose. Aspirin works very well, it really is a wonder drug but its been clinically trialed, peer reviewed and is offered at a controlled dose, not some brew you knock up at home from a bit of willow :rolleyes: All this homoeopathy stuff is a bit of fun but for crying out loud don't rely on it for anything more than the very simplest of health problems, problems that would in fact self heal most of the time if left alone.

Hi Rik, you, FishFish and I have had this exact conversation before on the boards. And I agree that things should be tested first and that folks should be carefull not to let minor ailments turn life threatening through ignorance. Knew a rational lassie who almost died as her "New Age" "friend" said that the reason her cancer wasn't going away was because her partner didn't believe in the herbs and she should leave him. Thankfully she is now on the road to recovery.

Some things have been tested by time and are pretty harmless. Oranges, honey and a wee touch of whisky if you've got a cold will help with some of the symptoms and at least make you feel nice. The problem is that most folk make a half a**ed attempt and don't know dosages and preparation techniques for herbal remedies. But then there's a large portion of humanity can't follow the instructions on the side of a packet of pills either.

On that point my local pharmacist has taken more time to explain my medications, times and combinations to take them and other contributing factors that can affect their efficacy than my doctor and consultant have. So my ex doctor (didn't know what was wrong or how to proceed a couple of times) isn't always correct either. There are always different ways of doing things, the good doctors at one place in Glasgow I was sent to use techniques gleaned from eastern medicines about peripheral pulses and other body indicators to help in their diagnosis (they're cardio specialists by the way). That would have been poo-poo'd only a few years ago here in the west. They were also quite chuffed that I used meditation to control heart rate to a degree and had taught myself muscle control to help control the build up of sputum in my lungs.

Anyway I'm rambling and I agree with you, but we can always look over our shoulder to the past and else where to see what we've forgotten - if carefully considered it may work.

ATB,
GB.
 

rik_uk3

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I really should keep out of these threads but the 'nurse' (retired) in me forces me to drone on a bit. I've seen people who have suffered because they had faith in homoeopathy; a couple we know are both dieticians and they really are not keen on vegetarians and hold no respect for vegans because the two of them have had to help sort out the damage done to youngsters by parents restricting the children's diets.
 

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