Does a lighter daysack to accompany berghaus centurio 45L make sense?

[mickbr]

Hi Gents, I do 1-3 day hikes in Australia, wet tropics climate. I moved away from heavy expedition packs as I realised I just dont need them anymore, and recently got a 45L Berghaus centurio, as yet untested overnight.

I was considering getting a lighter weight daysack to carry in the centurio as well. Use it for smaller trips out from base camp. Some tasks would be scuttling along rocks along beachers, where I dont really need a 45L pack hanging off me.

This daypack could even serve for commuting or metro use( I like to combine uses, Im very cheap lol).

Is this is a fools errand? If not, any idea of suggested literage and models?

 

[Great egret]

i put my quilt(s) in this pack: Huckepack
Doesn't add much weight, but it gives me the opportunity to have a smaller pack with me.

 

[Chris]

Centurio 45 takes PLCE side pouches, right?

Add those, buy a PLCE yoke and put it in your Centurio, then you can get to camp, remove the pouch(es) and you can use the side pouch(es) on the yoke as a small daysack.

See here for an example:

DPM side pouch and yoke set

British issue until 2012, a versatile daysack kit of three component parts. Two 15 litre side pouches and a comfortable yoke can be fitted to form a 15 or 30 litre daysack. Side poches will also fit to the engineer or infantry bergen increasing capacity by 30 litres. Two heavy duty cordura...

www.goldingsurplus.co.uk

 

[C_Claycomb]

Centurio 45 takes PLCE side pouches, right?

Add those, buy a PLCE yoke and put it in your Centurio, then you can get to camp, remove the pouch(es) and you can use the side pouch(es) on the yoke as a small daysack.

See here for an example:

DPM side pouch and yoke set

British issue until 2012, a versatile daysack kit of three component parts. Two 15 litre side pouches and a comfortable yoke can be fitted to form a 15 or 30 litre daysack. Side poches will also fit to the engineer or infantry bergen increasing capacity by 30 litres. Two heavy duty cordura...

www.goldingsurplus.co.uk

Doesn't look like the Centurio 45 takes PLCE. It takes MMPS side pockets. Different compatibility, at least that is what folk are saying here:

Side pocket compatibility on Berghaus Centurio

Having looked after it for about 20 years ( it was the first year they used black buckles on them) my beloved Berghaus Munro is finally showing its age. The elastic around the lid is long perished, the straps are wearing, the seams are starting to pull though and a fair bit is already re sewn...

bushcraftuk.com

Berghaus vulcan and Centurio dramas

Hi forum. a logn time lurker here hoping some of the venerable members might be able to advise on the following :) I just ordered a new Berghaus vulcan and Centurio pack from major UK supplier and noticed no shoulder straps came with the MMPS side pockets on the vulcan so they can't be worn...

bushcraftuk.com

Straps to make day bag are not the same as PLCE yoke.

Berghaus MMPS pockets...extra straps??

Hi all, recently acquired a lovely Berghaus Centurio 45 at a snip, purchased some of the 10l mmps pockets that have the ability to be a small daysack when zipped together and the supplied shoulder straps added.....however there are two straps supplied that I can’t fathom the use of, pictured...

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All that said, I thoroughly endorse the idea of a day bag from the 45 litre pack, and the use of two side pockets for this purpose. I did it on a Snugpak, a Sabre 45, and a Kifaru Zulu. I even made my own version of the PLCE using 500D Cordura rather than the stock 1000D stuff, to work with the Kifaru accessory shoulder straps (more comfy than PLCE yoke).

 

[TeeDee]

Alpkit do some nice lightweight units for sensible money

Lightweight Rucksacks and backpacks

Lightweight rucksacks and backpacks

alpkit.com

 

[Jared]

Pretty sure shoulder straps comes with a pair of Berghaus MMPS side pockets.

 

[lostplanet]

MMPS is basically zip down PLCE vislon zips. some of the dutch army surplus have zip down on there side pouches.

 

[lostplanet]

bit pricey but basically drybag daysack packs down to very little

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Exped-Cloudburst-25-Rucksack/dp/B00KOTZKUW

 

[mickbr]

thanks fellas. some food for thought there.

I was never a big fan of the rocket daypack look, was excited when I got my Vulcan 14 or so years ago but never really warmed to using the pouches like that. Just found they felt wierd , as in overly wide for a day pack and the straps didnt feel as secure on my shoulders as I do a lot of scrambling.

Im thinking of a Tasmanian tiger essentials pack either the 10L or 15L. Weight is 500-600grams, hmmm some thought to go into it. They apparently roll down okay and could stuff them in the top section of the centurio or just lash it to the outside of the pack.

The 10L and 15L PLCE/MMPS type pair pouches are of course a lot lighter, so its a bit of a saving if I go that way. Im trying to avoid putting two of these on the outside of the centurio though as I'd be lugging essentially a 65-70L pack again. Wider, a bit heavier and the temptation to fill those pouches will come upon me Lol.

Anyone know if you buy just 1x 15L pouch or do they only come as a pair?

 

[lostplanet]

PLCE is zip up where as MMPS is zip down so they are not compatible. They are more like 11 liters each. depends who is selling them as to whether you get 1 or 2. try and get a good grade because the clips do get damaged and crack.

I'm not a fan of the 2 pouches side by side either. i used to use 1 with the connector straps that come with the yoke without the yoke which was ok for light stuff.

Pardon our interruption...

I think the TT pack looks a better option if you need it stable on your back. I have a few pouches by them and great quality for the price. The only thing with TT is the Molle pattern doesn't match up with some others. meaning there are normally odd number of loops. not a big issue but just means some other pouches wont fit equally in the middle or side by side like you would expect.

 

[stonepark]

Have a look at site below and see what you fancy and what you can get locally

Lightweight Day Packs | UK | Ultralight Outdoor Gear

Wide range of lightweight Day Packs available now with reviews, full tech specs & helpful buying advice. FREE UK+EU Delivery

ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk

I quite like idea of putting 1inch straps on a dry bag

 

[Jared]

Savotta have 12L rolltop.

Hatka 12L

A small and simple looking yet surprisingly multifunctional daypack. Suitable and adaptable for a wide range of uses.

www.savotta.fi

 

[MartinK9]

I use the MMPS Grab bag:

Berghaus MMPS Grab Bag II - Cedar

Building on the modularity of the MMPS system, the modular Grab Bag interacts the Atlas and Crusader. By replacing the standard lid with the Grab Bag the whole Grab Bag can be quickly and easily removed to form a daysac containing your essentials in the event of an emergency or when you just...

www.thekitmonkey.co.uk

 

[forrestdweller]

Savotta have 12L rolltop.

Hatka 12L

A small and simple looking yet surprisingly multifunctional daypack. Suitable and adaptable for a wide range of uses.

www.savotta.fi

i haven't tried one myself, but the "jaakari" S is about one litre when folded up...
for a collapsible daypack i'm using something similar to a WW2 style veshmeshok (basically a pillow case with draw strings)

 

[Moondog55]

As far back as I can remember it's been SOP to have a small extra pack.
A heavy duty sleeping bag sack does a good job but it could be something as small as a big bumbag. A waist pack is a good place to stash all the small things that you have for day to day use, the 10 essentials plus the snacks for the day etc: and if the belt is big enough [ say a proper 50mm webbing belt] then a waterbottle of two can be hung off the belt and if that WB has a nesting cup you are pretty well set for a day out except for the extra clothing

 

[mickbr]

thanks fellas. A lot of good suggestions and food for thought