OK, forget it. I'll move this subject to another forum with mature grown up members. Too many trolls here today.
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Carbon Monoxide tent deaths. Can we do something positive?
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Funny enough I was browsing Tesco site today and noticed they were putting warnings and I thought of you as I know its one of the bees in your bonnet lol
I agree Tescos should be applauded for this as the results of making this mistake can be so tragic
I agree Tescos should be applauded for this as the results of making this mistake can be so tragic
resnikov
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Th campsite I just stayed on had warnings up - they seem to have been printed off from ukcampsites.com
Some people are just incapable of understanding no matter how many warnings they recieve........they know best..........speeding is a very good example.
I'm not sure I understand you here? People are more likely to be looking online for products these days and a mention in the listing would have more effect than printing them on the tent instructions/leaflet. Who reads those?
It's the younger generation in particular I am thinking of, those buying some pop up crap to take to a festival as well as families.
The printed word is a start. I'm not asking for it to be part of the school curriculum, just a sentence on a listing.
Over half term I took my kids camping to Warren farm in Brean and at no point was there a mention at all about CO risks. I would argue that they should have a legal obligation to inform their guests of such risks.
You would be surprised how many people don't have a clue!
gladly
whether it'll do any good or not i have no idea, but it can't hurt can it
Now that's what I expected to hear. It's a few clicks of a mouse and if it can save the life of one person this coming autumn/next spring then that must be worth it.
Thanks
I'm sorry, but that gets my goat! Should they also have a legal obligation to tell their visitors that knives are sharp and can deliver a nasty cut if not used properly, or not to put their hand into hot flames? Or to be careful with boiling water because it can kill? Or that holding a metal rod in a lightning storm can be predudicial to their health? Do not breathe underwater in our swimming pool because it isn't good for you?
Its precisely this sort of argument - its always someone else's fault - that drives insurance rates skywards and stops us from doing a whole raft of things because "the insurance premiums are prohibitive".
Whatever happened to "personal or parental responsibility"? Whatever happened to the "man on the Clapham omnibus" that used to be the legal definition of what could be considered reasonable behaviour?
Stoves, barbeques - even tents - all have warning signs saying don't burn indoors otr in a poorly ventilated area. Anyone with half a brain should be aware that things like heaters in caravans should be protected by CO monitors, which you should test. Same with fire alarms in your house - when was the last time YOU tested their batteries, by the way?
I absolutely abhor the whole concept of "It's not my fault" culture. YES IT IS! You are responsible for what you do, assuming you are mentally capable. If you aren't, its your carer or parent who is responsible.
And please, stop saying stuff like "If it'll save one life, it's worth it". I'm sorry, but that is not necessarily the case. Wanna cut deaths? Do away with cars, or airplanes, or railways - thousands die every year on these in the UK alone. Ban parachuting, and swimming, and camping, football, rugby, cricket, fencing, sailing, hill-walking, mountain climbing, and going out in the rain, and machinery in factories.
Life is a series of risks - we all take them every day, and trust ourselves to assess and mitigate those risks. If we're parents, we make those decisions for our children until they are adult enough to assume that responsibility.
THe really frightening thing about this whole "blame" culture is that the genuine risks that we need to know about get buried in the avalanche of unnecessary warning labels that are just common sense. Why doesn't anyone read warning labels anymore? Because everything is covered with them!
me too, unfortunately it's genetically deficient adults selecting to poison sleeping children, and to be honest, that's just not playing fair now is it
Simples.... Ban all adults from having children unless passing a common-sense and intelligence test. I'm sure that'll save hundreds of lives.
Anyone willing to support that?
Put the signs out to cover your bum for when the next person dies but how much use the signs will be in reality I don't know, people popping their socks in tents has been on the news for years so unless deaf and blind people choose to ignore past warnings and stories.
Tesco would save more lives putting up a sign in the mobile phone section PHONING WHEN DRIVING KILLS and one in the take away food section DRINKING AND EATING WHEN DRIVING KILLS. Two pet hates of mine.
Tesco would save more lives putting up a sign in the mobile phone section PHONING WHEN DRIVING KILLS and one in the take away food section DRINKING AND EATING WHEN DRIVING KILLS. Two pet hates of mine.
If this goes on we're gonna see a knee jerk action from the Gouvernment too, banning disposable BBQ s, gas stoves over 3" high & non ventilated tents under 10 square meters surface area.
Maybe they should only allow campers who have at least one member of the party who are Trained and Qualified
Camping Health and Safety Trained Certificate a basic 2 day course £500 valid 5 yrs
and does the Required
1/2 day course at the campsite to cover site specific hazards £50 valid 3 yrs
lots of dangerous things are only allowed after you have been trained and tested
this sort of thing would cover the camp site
and open up a whole new revenue area lots of jobs for Instructors
ATB
Duncan
PS All courses mentioned are purely fictitious and bear no relation to reality
Yet......................
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