Bushcraft and women

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Tholgy

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Firstly are there any women using this site? If you search the forums for the word 'women' it's not very encouraging to say the least.

I'm looking to do a basic bushcraft course (learning to make fire, check water contamination etc) but I do find the idea of spending an entire weekend alone with a bunch of blokes slightly intimidating. On the other hand courses entitled 'jungle jane' and such like come across as being patronising, making me doubt their usefulness.

I was the only female on my college course and I spend most days surrounded by all male contractors so I'm used to being in a male orientated environment. I don't look like a man, I don't act like a man and I don't want to be a man so sometimes you need a break from all that 'man' stuff. I don't see why gutting a fish and gathering wood is seen as a male pursuit, it's just the conversation that can get a bit too much to bear.

The question: I'd like to know about other women's experiences on bushcraft courses. Were you the only woman? Did you go on a women only course? Do you wish you had done the opposite? What were the benefits and drawbacks? Is there one particular course you can recommend?

Is there anyone out there that hosts a course that always gets a few women participants?
 
Hello :D and welcome to BcUK.

There are a lot of females on the forum, and no, we don't do the Jungle Jane routine..........usually just kind of muddy, dressed for the weather and the task at hand and busy.

Most of the schools have women on staff let alone on their courses.
Woodsmoke, Woodlore, Worldwild, all certainly do anyway.

I know of women who have participated in, and thoroughly enjoyed, courses run by all of these schools as well as Backwoodsurvival, Bushcraft Expeditions, Greenman bushcraft, woodlandsurvival crafts, Dryad................and those are only the ones that come to mind right now.

If you want to do a course, go for it :D Ask here and folks will happily advise which ones they'd recommend, you might even find other folks who would like to go along too.

cheers,
Toddy
 
Hey glothy, welcome to the site. Be assured there are quite a few women on here so you're far from being alone. No doubt soon some of which will reply to you here and help lay aside any trepidations you may have, and give you some pointers.


Nag.
 
Welcome to the forum Tholgy

As others have said there's plenty of women here on the forum and I've yet to be to a meet where there wasn't at least one or 2 there.

On any bushcraft course I think you'll find it's a take you chance as to the mix of sexes on them. I was on a Woodlore Fundamental course in August and there were 3 women on it. 2 were with their partners and one woman on her own. Everyone on the course was treated equally and all encouraged to participate fully to the best of their abilities.

About the only thing I thought might be construed as sexist if you wanted to be really pickey was that the instructors always referred to everyone as 'guys' i.e. 'right guys', 'you guys' 'time to get going guys' etc.
 
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About the only thing I thought might be construed as sexist if you wanted to be really pickey was that the instructors always referred to everyone as 'guys' i.e. 'right guys', 'you guys' 'time to get going guys' etc.

Haha. After several years of being in my industry I'm used to being referred to as one of the guys. Probably find it more strange if I was singled out as 'and girl'.

Thanks for all your responses. I feel a lot happier about doing a course now, and think I've found the one I want to do - Worldwild seem to fit what I'm looking for more than any other.
 
Well, I'll say right now that I'm not a woman :p But I think it comes down to a certain strength of will. I expect (though I might be wrong, and please don't bash me if I am . . .) that the majority of outdoorsy people are men. However, I reckon that the percentage is more even when it comes to bushcraft, since a lot of 'outdoorsy' people fall into the trap of 'survival' - namely, going into the woods with just a bowie knife (hollow handle containing survival kit of course!), experiencing several days of extreme discomfort, in which they battle nature in all its forms, and come out looking like they've been living in the rainforest for thirty years. That is, in my experience, a trap that women very rarely fall into (too much common sense ;) ).

Unfortunately, there will probably be times where women encounter a bit of sexism in the great outdoors. But that's where the strength of will comes from. If you are unlucky enough to run into it, just remember that it doesn't represent the views of all Bushcrafting/outdoors enthusiasts, or all schools. I've always found that in a bushcrafting kind of circumstance, even with the guys who would be more inclined towards sexism, they'll willingly accept you when you show that you can pull your own weight. But I think that even that "prove yourself" scenario is unlikely. Everyone starts out as a beginner, so even if you were useless I reckon more bushcrafting folks would be happy to help and teach, rather than ridicule or stereotype.

I'm not sure what business you're in, but given that you've implied it's male dominated, I reckon you have what it takes to get past whatever obstacles meet you. So just get out there and enjoy yourself :p
 
Rhoda and Angie are really good, and they're friendly too.
Best of luck with it :D

Meant to say, it's good to meet other females who like being female, who don't want or need to be masculine :approve: despite what we get up to :cool:

cheers,
Toddy
 
I think you're right Draven. I've not had a problem with being accepted so far. Respect is often earned just by putting yourself in the situation.

Meant to say, it's good to meet other females who like being female, who don't want or need to be masculine :approve: despite what we get up to :cool:

This is exactly it. I'm interested in things that people might think of as being masculine, but I'm not masculine, and at the same time I don't want to be in a feminine / feminist environment knitting tampons out of sheeps wool or whatever.

(Hope I haven't offended anyone there)
 
Oh my...:eek: ;)

Welcome to the forum Glothy, sounds like you'll fit in great. Have a great time, here and on the course.

Dave
 
I, but I'm not masculine, and at the same time I don't want to be in a feminine / feminist environment knitting tampons out of sheeps wool or whatever.

(Hope I haven't offended anyone there)

:lmao: :lmao:
There is thread on here on what to do when you are caught short on your monthies. The odd mention of shewees, quite a bit on how great tampons are as tinder, but not nothing on anarcho-feminist knitting and anti-capitalist cross-stitch.
 
Hi Tholgy,

I met Rhoda and Angie from Worldwild at the Bushmoot this year and will happily confirm that they are superb ladies who really do know their stuff. While I haven't done their courses yet, it's only through lack of cash!

There are some top birds on here...d'oh! slip of the tongue...Toddy, Mischief, Rhoda and my wife being just a few!

Enjoy the forums.
 
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:lmao: Laughing at the comment about "Guys" I think that started because of folk thinking it was politically incorrect to say " right chaps" or "ok men" so they bottled out and thought "guys" was safer for some reason. How about "chaps and chappesses" that's a cracker..: makes my toes curl up....:D :D
Glothy, my Daughter and Grand Daughter attended a course down here in the South and they really enjoyed it, both complete novices on a course with blokes who had attended many courses, but because of the skill of the instructors they felt completely involved and not isolated as women. Good luck. wicca.
 
Ive never been on a course (cant afford it)

I find women very intimidating creatures, rather like bears really.

I was talking about this last night with my Fathers wife; I said I have never been in touch with my inner female, I dont seem to have one, and I cannot relate to other women (a lot on the forum excepted!)

Ill have to go back to Mars...

Come to the Bushmoot; there are plenty of all sorts there. (many of whom have had to ask permission from the Unfair sex in their lives to attend...)
 
My woodlore course was led by a very feminine woman. Nothing butch about her. A very good teacher and we all had a lot of respect for her.

Welcome to the forum Tholgy.

The lady that Celt_Ginger is referring to can be found here:

http://www.campfireskills.co.uk/

and I can also confirm that Nettie is a really nice person who knows her stuff! She was the leader on my Woodlore (Ray Mears' company) Fundamental Bushcraft course in 2006

I don't know where you're based, but she operates down in the New Forest.
 
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another woman here. we are usually outnumbered, but not always by that much.

except sometimes. Especially in winter.
 
Thanks for all the kind words everyone! I love the fact that there are some really great women on this site and that there are some great men too! I have never encountered any sexism here! PM on it's way to you Glothy.
 
Welcome to the forum Glothy, I have met several females out in the woods and at meets and can honestly say from what I've seen there is no difference between them and the men. Apart from the ones who own their own personal slaves for the lifting and carrying, my wife for one (I'm her's) all are more than capable of enjoying the woods and giving us a hard time just the same as their male counterparts. I've met several now who are extremely knowledgable and very very able, and some who are only starting out so no difference to us at all. Er indoors assures me that I have only 2 faults......everything I say....and everything I do..... and she treats me with the same comtempt whether we are in the woods or at home so no distinction there either.
 
It's surprising just how many women are interested in bushcraft. It was a woman that inspired me to get into it in the first place :)

There are also a few women on here, probably more than we realise. Being a woman isn't that much of a topic of bushcraft conversation I guess, unless it's a thread like this:) . Though it's always great to know that we aren't the only ones isn't it:D

Bushcraft has been my little hobby for years, and I really enjoy taking my friends outdoors/ camping/ foraging with me (when they get the chance, work, children and all that). They all love it too!


Anyway, this forum is a real cracker. Hope you enjoy it!
 
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