bush blades

Shinken

Native
Nov 4, 2005
1,317
3
43
cambs
I think that if he is calling it a review then it is a poor one, as reviews should be about how well a knife is made, how well it is designed, is it value for money etc etc

that is just a page full of someones opinion, which dont apply to everyone.


whats the article trying to say?
 

malente

Life member
Jan 14, 2007
894
2
Germany
:why:

hmm dunno, but some other stuff on the site is quite.... how shall i say it... opinionated? (read the a**hole files - or maybe not - that's some time of your life you never get back :D)).

i think he wants to say that bigger = better and also makes no differentiation between bushcraft and survival situations... :confused:

mike
 

John Fenna

Lifetime Member & Maker
Oct 7, 2006
23,307
3,090
67
Pembrokeshire
Boy! - does that fellow have opinions or what?
Does he understand the concept of Bushcraft as opposed to Survival?
Can he write anything positive about anything?
Can he count over 20 without removing his boxers?
I think I have just joined as a candidate for the A**hole files....
 

sharp88

Settler
Aug 18, 2006
649
0
34
Kent
Ahhh everyones gone on m4040 once in a while. Redneck is all I have to say. Worth a laugh though.
 

demographic

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Apr 15, 2005
4,762
786
-------------
<Scott dons his flame resistant Nomex undercrackers and adopts devils advocate mode>

Mind, he does have a point when he suggests that the general bushcraft style of blade isn't very well represented in many cultures that use blades during daily life...
The bit about the $500 knives being too expensive to actually use isn't too far off the mark either.

Mebbe its just that I don't give a monkeys about whittling spoons but theres a hell of a lot of cultures that have got on just fine ambling through the desert/jungle/frozen wasteland without a scandi grind bushy.

Maybe they are just far more recourcefull than us eh?
We need the perfect tool but they can manage just fine without?
 

demographic

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Apr 15, 2005
4,762
786
-------------
I think hes more of a combat-survivalist type...aswel as a general fantasist.

Fair comment, it still doesn't explain how come theres been lots of cultures that have gone on for centuries without ever feeling the need for a scandi grind bushy:)
Some of them even do the odd bit of carving as well.
 

Shinken

Native
Nov 4, 2005
1,317
3
43
cambs
I dont think its about cultures developing different knives, the is a tribe (cant remember the name) that have used bows for generations without feathers (proper name) on the end. when someone from another culture (who use feathers on the end) came along and showed them that they work better they said great, and now use them.

anyhow, just because a culture uses a given knife successfully doesn't mean it the most efficient tool for the job
 

sharp88

Settler
Aug 18, 2006
649
0
34
Kent
I guess when they say a good workman never blames his tools there right. Then again they say your only as sharp as your knife...

You can clearly see the northern aboriginals of Australia using rather strange, shoddy looking knives with a strong curve in one of the Ray Mears episodes. The curved knife was about 5" odd in length. Kinda thing you'd expect to see in an old fashioned butchers shop.

Also when hes somewhere or the other in Africa...can't remember where it was too long ago when I saw it but I remember a tribesman showing him his survival kit. One of the many items was a somewhat leaf shaped, large knife approx 7" in length.

Its all a matter of skill and preference I guess. But I don't have or ever think I will posess the skill of a tribesman, so as a modern man, I'l stick to my razor sharp scandi.
 

demographic

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Apr 15, 2005
4,762
786
-------------
I dont think its about cultures developing different knives, the is a tribe (cant remember the name) that have used bows for generations without feathers (proper name) on the end. when someone from another culture (who use feathers on the end) came along and showed them that they work better they said great, and now use them.

anyhow, just because a culture uses a given knife successfully doesn't mean it the most efficient tool for the job

Fair nuff, we in the west usualy use saws that cut on the pushstroke whilst the japanese do fine with ones that cut on the drawstroke and all that.

But, how about those who use for instance the Kukri?
Is ours better than theirs? Is it down to the environment that they are using theirs or our legislation that causes us to use a short knife and an axe instead of just a big knife?

I can't say I am a fan of massive knives myself but if I had to get into a coconut often or chop sugarcane I could well change my mind.

Also I notice that there seems to be a bit of unrest as the interchangability of the words "Bushcraft" and "Survival".
Looking through that blokes site, I have to say that theres a massive crossover as a lot of the things he likes doing are frequently discussed on here under the title "Bushcraft" so are we just arguing semantics?
Well apart from the bits when he has his as****e list, errrrrrr, proper loon there he is.

You look through almost any survival book and then check on here to see if the same subjects come up and I bet that most of them do.

Wild food? Check.
Knife choice and care? Even "Rays" first book was a Survival one.
Cooking in the wild using fires? Check.
Rope making? Check.
Navigation? Check.

You name it and most of it's in there, its just that most of us don't want to be included in the Michael Ryan TA wannabe style so we call it bushcraft instead.
Can't say I blame em but we all know that if one of use went nuts and killed a load of people that the Daily Kneejerk would label us survivalists anyway.

It could even be argued that the term "bushcraft" isn't that accurate as theres a distinct lack of "Bush" round the UK.

Well apart from me, I just go camping every once in a while and don't mind calling it that;)
Mind I am one of those awkward gits that doesn't like to be labled, I own several motorcycles but shy away from the label "biker".

Can I put my freshly whittled wooden spoon away now?
Regards Scott.
 

malente

Life member
Jan 14, 2007
894
2
Germany
demographic is a biker :nana:

There are some interesting points here. Ignoring all the opther, more opinionated stuff on that site, I find the argument that bigger tools are 'better' has some truth in it.

Just look at any industrial equipment. It always seems to be heavier, larger, bigger, i.e 'heavy duty' or 'industrial strength'. The people who work with tools for their living and not for fun as we do (the same as 'primitive' buscraft in basic socities is for a living, and not for fun) do not use fiddly tools. :rolleyes:

Regarding bushcraft vs. survival, I think there is a distinction, but on the site any survival/ outdoor/ bushcrafty thing is for the more short term survival situation for anyone, and not for tree huggers like us :D

I find the notion that in a survival situation nature is the enemy quite interesting. :tapedshut

Anyway, gotta rush,

cya

Mike
 

TheGreenMan

Native
Feb 17, 2006
1,000
8
beyond the pale
You&#8217;re a sauce-pox, Mike. There hasn&#8217;t been a serious rumble on these forums for a while now. That URL could definitely get some folks twitching, though I suspect a lot won&#8217;t nibble (like me, for instance :) ).

Cheers,
Paul.
PS: Loved the &#8216;pink-panty wearing crowd&#8217; thing :lmao: ...haven't worn any for years :D
 

BCUK Shop

We have a a number of knives, T-Shirts and other items for sale.

SHOP HERE