British PCS Lightweight Thermal Windproof Smock

[Corso]

Looks like latest issue and rather smart at that

http://gearinferno.eu/pl/kurtka-soft-shell-pcs-lightweight-thermal-windproof-smock/

I'm wondering if these are avalible on the Uk surplus market or whether there is a civilian one made to the same specs?

I've found the odd one in kids sizes but not worked out who's making it?

 

[Tonyuk]

Got one issued. Definitely an improvement on the old fleece but still not that great. Your much better off with the issue softie suit. The new fleece on offer is cut like an old norgie shirt but is very thin, so avoid if your going anywhere cold.

Tonyuk

 

[Bluffer]

Loads on ebay and from surplus shops, they've been issued to UK forces for a couple of years now but hardly ever worn because they're not as good as Buffalo/Montane.

You'll pick up a new one for about £25-30.

The issued micro-fleece (the thin one) is a great idea, but nowhere near as good as a Paramo mountain shirt.

Softy jackets were great until you have to wear it constantly for a few weeks or until it gets wet, then the advantages of a full-zip Buffalo or Montane are apparent (the Danish lads get montane jackets issued, the Brits get whatever is cheapest).

 

[widu13]

The British Forces PCS Combat Thermal Fleece Undershirt: http://www.survivalaids.com/combat-undershirt-thermal-pcs is designed to go underneath the PCS Smock Lightweight Thermal: http://www.survivalaids.com/pcs-smock-lightweight-thermal, neither are a direct replacement for the norgie and softie, kind of a halfway house/compromise but doesn't quite get it right and requires the use of the coolmax for wicking purposes: http://www.survivalaids.com/british-forces-tshirt-combat-mtp-light-olive-pcs

 

[tiger stacker]

Keela of Glenrothes make this
http://www.keela.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/1454/s/belay-over-the-head-smock/category/9/

The micro fleece 1/4 replaces the trusty Norgie.
The almost a buffalo replaces the generic green fleece that started off as DPM.

The only warm kit unchanged in 47ish years is the jumper heavy wool.

Apologies just rehashed the post above

 

[SCOMAN]

Noting comments on the micro fleece and the 'almost a buffalo' are they meant to be worn together to provide insulation? I have to say from experience working in a buffalo/montane means you sweat loads. I know the system is designed to cope with that but a less warm selection of tops may be better.

 

[Corso]

Loads on ebay and from surplus shops,.

only if your a child or a skinny bean pole so far...

Keela of Glenrothes make this
http://www.keela.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/1454/s/belay-over-the-head-smock/category/9/

Looks rather shiny and I was hoping for somthing in khaki/Tan

Noting comments on the micro fleece and the 'almost a buffalo' are they meant to be worn together to provide insulation? I have to say from experience working in a buffalo/montane means you sweat loads. I know the system is designed to cope with that but a less warm selection of tops may be better.

That was my thought, not looking for something for the camp fire just to sling over a T shirt is the weathers a bit rough

 

[Bluffer]

Noting comments on the micro fleece and the 'almost a buffalo' are they meant to be worn together to provide insulation?

The thin one is designed to be worn under MTP outer layers (jackets, ubacs) and body armour, which provides a vital extra layer for stop-start activity in cold weather.

The 'almost a buffalo' is designed to be thrown over the top of everything during breaks in activity, etc, however it's velcro-like inner sticks to sleeves and pockets, etc, which makes this difficult.

There are plenty of alternatives in khaki/olive from the likes of Keela, Snugpak, Ridgeline, Buffalo, Montane which are miles better.

 

[Modchop]

I've had one of these for a while, in fact I've just taken it off from getting in from a walk. I bought mine new from Strikeforcesupplies.co.uk (and it's not in racing snake size ) I tend to shove it in my pack for stops or when the temperature drops. I find them quite hot in use if you're working hard and I have to use the venting zips to prevent overheating. I like mine and use it regularly.

 

[Rich.H]

Also note that when new they are also light shower proof.