as the title says really which one to choose both are roughly 40£ anybody suggesting snugpacks will be ignored !
British Army Issue Arctic sleeping bag vs HIGHLANDER PHANTOM 250 ?
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I have one of the issue arctic bags and must say its been a good bag. Plenty of room and well made(got the long size) replaced it with one of the USMSS and like that too.
bambodoggy
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Lol @ the snugpak comment 
As a mate of mine on here says, there's lies, damn lies and snugpak temp ratings lol
As said the army arctic bag is great but bbulky and heavy. I haven't used a cold weather Highlander bag and I agree a lot of their kit is lower end spec but I have their summer use Ranger Lite and it's the best summer bag I've ever owned
might be worth looking at some of the alpkit pipedream range if you want warm, small and lightweight.....only problem is size if you're a bit othe big side they come up very.....snug
Hope that helps
As a mate of mine on here says, there's lies, damn lies and snugpak temp ratings lolAs said the army arctic bag is great but bbulky and heavy. I haven't used a cold weather Highlander bag and I agree a lot of their kit is lower end spec but I have their summer use Ranger Lite and it's the best summer bag I've ever owned
might be worth looking at some of the alpkit pipedream range if you want warm, small and lightweight.....only problem is size if you're a bit othe big side they come up very.....snug
Hope that helps
No worries on the size front, Mandos is a stick compared to a lot of us
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I have the Snugpak sleeper elite, for the mone y it's good, not as good as my army article bag, but good enough, says comfy 0c extreme -7c, taken with a pinch of salt, but I must say it's very warm for a 2 season bag, and smaller than the army bag. The only thing I don't like is the side zip, I do like a centre line zip and the price is good to at £35, but not as roomy as the army bag
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widu13
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You have the Sleeper Lite, not Elite (different range of bags).
The Phantom 250 is designed as a 2+ bag nothing more.
Yeah, the Highlander and the Army Arctic bags are very different beasts. The Highlander weighs 1.8kg, and is rated to an extreme of minus 3 degrees according to one website (so how its a 3-4 season bag, Lord knows), but a comfort rating of minus 5 according to another. The Army bag is certainly 4 season (minus 20 is one figure I've seen as an extreme temp rating), but its 2.5kg.
Alas, no more Alpkit bags, and I agree, Snugpak are a bit optimistic on temp ratings, but apparently not as bad as Highlander!
I have one of each!
I used my Ranger whilst I was still in and for my early scout camps never had a cold night. The army bag is for when I'm in my hammock.
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I used my Ranger whilst I was still in and for my early scout camps never had a cold night. The army bag is for when I'm in my hammock.
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bambodoggy
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Nearly spat my coffee out laughing at that.....correctly correcting somebody on something they own and sleep in!
Many thanks 
