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Tadpole

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A lot of the "suggestion" in the second book you've recommended have been abandoned as unworkable or downright dangerous. Not a book I'd recommend for first aid.
 

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A lot of the "suggestion" in the second book you've recommended have been abandoned as unworkable or downright dangerous. Not a book I'd recommend for first aid.

disregarded by whom? And I agree not a first aid book, as the title states it's for emergency procedures. World of difference in theory and application.
 
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point taken, I do however trust more a medical doctor who's whole medical career has been dedicated to wilderness medicine vs an EMT_W.... while not understating the training EMT_W's receive...their whole agenda is to get them to the hospital as quickly as possible. The books I suggested are for those instances where a hospital and professional care is not in the cards. Either way, they are worth a look, and could help you save a life one day. It is always easier when you have O2, helicopters, doctors and nursing staff on call prepped and ready to receive a patient vs lets say a bad fall while climbing, you're miles from anyone and you're watching someone die in front of you. while first aid will help, would you rather know this info and not need to use it, or need to use it and not know how to help? Take it in the spirit in which it was given. I'm not here to make waves or step on toes, but if I didn't have the medical training I have, and someone knew of a book I could read that would be beneficial to me, I would like them to share it..... I can make up my own mind later on. I could consult with my doctor on the validity of treatment suggested etc. Hope this helps.
 

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Myself personally I'd choose to follow the advice of people "in the Loop" using techniques that are the most up- to-date, and proven to be affective in real life situations. As for trying to treat people miles from anywhere, where help is hours away, I’d rather be sure in what I am doing, than following something I read in a book. I sleep better at night knowing that even though the person I treated died, nothing I did hastened that death.
 

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Myself personally I'd choose to follow the advice of people "in the Loop" using techniques that are the most up- to-date, and proven to be affective in real life situations. As for trying to treat people miles from anywhere, where help is hours away, I’d rather be sure in what I am doing, than following something I read in a book. I sleep better at night knowing that even though the person I treated died, nothing I did hastened that death.

that is your choice friend. I understand, but doctors, EMT's and all medical professionals learn from books. Most bushcraft comes from books. You read, and practice like everything else. If there are people too scared or unwilling to learn from a professional, it's up to them. The info has been presented, and now it's up to the individuals to consider buying the books. I do not advocate replacing a doctors advice, and in most cases you will be able to get people to a hospital in the UK.... in America people can be days out into the trek, with no one else around for help. In those dire straights knowing emergency procedures is helpful. thanks for the responses and good luck to all.
 

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I have this one which fits nicely inside my pack and has the essentials in. It's not a bad price either.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pocket-First-Wilderness-Medicine-Guides/dp/1852845007/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305306617&sr=8-1
 

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If there are people too scared or unwilling to learn from a professional, it's up to them. The info has been presented, and now it's up to the individuals to consider buying the books.
No one is saying don't learn from books, but if you have to, make sure the advice in the books is as up to date and relevant to what you are Likely to find. And just because people are less than keen to follow your advice, doesn't mean they are afraid, it just mean they may have more up to date training, and have discounting the older more "riskier practices" as being just too risky for modern use.
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You read, and practice like everything else.
How would you suggest practicing safety pinning a person tongue to their lip?

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Great looking book, simple and yet comprehensive
 

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How would you suggest practicing safety pinning a person tongue to their lip? [/QUOTE said:
I would definitely not recommend doing this. One of the most silly and foolish suggestions for emergency treatment ever suggested. For someone stating they have the safest and most up to date first aid knowledge this is a foolish thing to do. Never mind the risk of infection, the chance at paralyzing facial nerves, but what happens to the patient when they wake up to figure out not only are they hurt, but their tongue is pinned to their cheek? If I woke up to find this has been done to me, I'd undue and then stab it into the face of the person who did it to me.
 
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Disregarded by the professional who teach first aid for a living.

Interesting comment. The Original Posted Book Field Guide to Wilderness Medicine is an excellent tome.

It is the course text for the WEMSI WEMT Course held at Glemore Lodge which is recognised by all NGBs and certification by the Scottish Royal College of Surgeons. The staff faculty are all servicing doctors or rescue practitioners.

I was formally interviewed about my experience as a medic and outdoor first aid trainer before going on the course.

A part from running a Bushcraft school full time I am a paid Wilderness Emergency Medical Technician.
 

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Interesting comment. The Original Posted Book Field Guide to Wilderness Medicine is an excellent tome.

It is the course text for the WEMSI WEMT Course held at Glemore Lodge which is recognised by all NGBs and certification by the Scottish Royal College of Surgeons. The staff faculty are all servicing doctors or rescue practitioners.

I was formally interviewed about my experience as a medic and outdoor first aid trainer before going on the course.

A part from running a Bushcraft school full time I am a paid Wilderness Emergency Medical Technician.
If you read my post you will see I've made no comments regarding the first book listed the "Field Guide to Wilderness Medicine".
 

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