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Longstrider

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Where I work I occasionally have the task of burning off an ever-added to heap of old pallets and off-cuts froma furniture makers. (It's all just wood so no environmental concerns.)
Tonight there was a heap about 3/4 the size of an articulated lorry trailer to be got rid of so instead of the usual "plenty of deisel and a burning rag on a stick" approach that my colleagues take I decided it was time the job was done properly. I set a little time aside for the job and went to the heap armed with the only tool available i.e.an old claw hammer with only one side on the claw.
It didn't take long to make a decent job of splitting up enough wood to have a good heap of kindling. My pocket knife did enough work to give me a decent-ish bundle of extra fine wood shavings to use as a tinder ball and then I got my bow drill set from the Landy.
Glowing coal first time :D (I've been practicing!) and into the tinder ball with it. 10 minutes later and I had to move the Landy so the paint wouldn't peel off in the heat as I had parked it about 15 yards away upwind... Far too close!

The feeling of satisfaction was great as I watched over the fire, enjoying a good cigar lit from the first flames, knowing that I had made that fire. Not just lit it, but made it, out in the wind and damp, on the very muddy ground, in the dark with 4 bits of wood and a length of string.

I know the old addage about "Indian have small fire and it keep him warm, White man has big fire and gets warm gathering wood to feed it", so not all camp fires need to be big to serve their purpose, but tonight got me wondering what the biggest fire you guys here have lit with "primitive" means? (On purpose that is. No forest fires PLEASE !) :twak: :yelrotflm
 
I don't want to spoil your thread, but wouldn't it have been a better idea to sell/give this wood to people with wood fires/stoves at home? The energy would not have gone to carbo dioxide for nothing
and you know firewood prices in the cities...
 
Its a great idea Ketchup,
The thing is, there is so much of a blame culture brewing here that companies are affraid that someone might cut themselves on a nail left in the wood or "Heaven forbid" burn themselves, that they'd rather not take the risk :confused:

Well done on the fire anyway Longstrider.

Ogri the trog
 
The biggest fire I've made with bow drill was the campfire we had at Wayne's meet in January....Could have been as big as yours as there was certainly enough wood after Bam felled two rather large Ash trees :cool: , but we didn't bung all of it on as that would have set the woods and us on fire. :lmao: Not that we needed it any bigger, it was more than big enough for 20 people to sit around. Much bigger would have started to have been a waste of fuel.
 
Biggest fire with primitive techniques was a Viking ship burning we did a few years ago.

The ship was a mock up but still about 50' long.

The usual aproach among re-enactment societies is to use a bathtub napalm mix on the fire arrows because most of them don't know how to make a real fire arrow.

The method I use is a tinder / tow / beeswax bundle in a wire cage arrowhead. This fits all the archeaology and available technology points and can be lit from a flint and steel.

Anyway, the irony of the situation was that all the artificial flame arrows kept blowing out in flight so they couldn't light the sail. My arrow however self ignighted when shot and we had a very nice fire minutes later..... :D
 
Wayland said:
Biggest fire with primitive techniques was a Viking ship burning we did a few years ago.

Anyway, the irony of the situation was that all the artificial flame arrows kept blowing out in flight so they couldn't light the sail. My arrow however self ignighted when shot and we had a very nice fire minutes later..... :D

That's one in the eye for modern pyrotechnics...or Swein >--->;) ouch
 
Ketchup said:
I don't want to spoil your thread, but wouldn't it have been a better idea to sell/give this wood to people with wood fires/stoves at home? The energy would not have gone to carbo dioxide for nothing
and you know firewood prices in the cities...
That's the first thing I thought! What a waste :(
Congrats' on the bow drill bit though!
Pete
 
Ketchup said:
Yes, but the energy's wasted.

Fair comment and I quite agree, all I was saynig was that it was at least carbon neutral as opposed to all the fosil fuel we waste.

I also agree with Ogri about companies and blame culture, I used to be the logistics manager for a large IT firm, I had piles and piles of pallets in our yard that I simply couldn't get rid of. They are so cheap now that nobody wants they and even trying to give them away I had no luck. I phoned various group including the scouts to see if they wanted them as firewood and I got the same answer from all of them that it was too dangerous with the nails in (actually I have seen a very nasty burn injury from a nail in a pallet when it burned through the sole of a pair of dms boots and right through the foot too...still if you're going to kick flaming pallets then you're going to get hurt! :rolleyes: ).
I took as many home for my wood burner as I could but theres a limit to how much kindling one household can use and I bearly made a dent in the 4 or 5 20 foot high stacks we had. In the end we had to pay to have them taken away!

Sorry for hijacking the thread by the way. Nice one for the bow drill work mate :)

Biggest for me has just been tiny little brew fires, it's quite rare I ever have a fire bigger than a dinner plate as I just don't need any bigger for what I do. It's different at big meets as Andy says but then I tend not to light thoses and just stand by muttering to myself about how it's using too much wood and doesn't need to be that big! lol :lmao:

Cheers,

Bam. :)
 

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