An interesting read and very informative

Ratbag

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The only thing I thought was misleading was to say a "...knife with a blade length of 3.0" or less so long as it is capable of folding..." is legal EDC. I think it would have been better to say a "...FOLDING knife with a blade length of 3.0" or less so long as it is INCAPABLE of LOCKING..."

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mountainm

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The only thing I thought was misleading was to say a "...knife with a blade length of 3.0" or less so long as it is capable of folding..." is legal EDC. I think it would have been better to say a "...FOLDING knife with a blade length of 3.0" or less so long as it is INCAPABLE of LOCKING..."

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AFAIK it isn't blade length, but cutting edge length that counts. So you roll the cutting edge over some card and measure the line it makes. - ie. a blade that is 3" long could have a cutting edge 4" long if it is curved.
 

Ratbag

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Don't know the answer, but that makes no sense to me: Surely the law is written to counter against the possibility of being stabbed with a long knife blade. Length of cutting edge seems irrelevant.

Also, as serrated blades have a longer cutting edge than a plain edge on the same sized knife, they'd have to be a lot shorter than 3-inch to remain legal!

Anyone know?

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nigeltm

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The legislation says:

139 Offence of having article with blade or point in public place.E+W(3)This section applies to a folding pocketknife if the cutting edge of its blade exceeds 3 inches.
It applies to the cutting edge, not the overall length of the blade. Theoretically you could have a folder with a 6" blade where only the last 2.99 inches is a sharpened cutting edge. Although I wouldn't like to get that past the local bobby!

Link to source info:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/33/section/139
 

Ratbag

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The legislation says:


It applies to the cutting edge, not the overall length of the blade. Theoretically you could have a folder with a 6" blade where only the last 2.99 inches is a sharpened cutting edge. Although I wouldn't like to get that past the local bobby!

Link to source info:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/33/section/139

Good grief, so it does. What nonsense! Anyone know of any case law on this to test the point? (no pun intended)

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Ian S

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There was a case recently in Scotland where the police and Procurator Fiscal (Scots law version of the DPP) tried to prosecute a woman for carrying a folding knife. She was going to plead guilty (presumably at the recommendation of 'her' defence solicitor, who may well have been a duty solicitor), but the Sheriff asked for the blade to be measured. I don't remember the blade length or the length of the cutting edge being mentioned, but it must have been less than 3 inches, because the Sheriff basically threw the case out. I wouldn't mind betting that the PF and the duty solicitor were given a wee talking to (read - a right old rollicking) by the Sheriff!

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