I guess I need to do some research? Both those links look like the MOLLE 2 frame to me. As far as I know the current generation of MOLLE (gen 4 as you say) doesn't use it or any external frame. I'm not all that up to date on MOLLE though.
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I guess I need to do some research? Both those links look like the MOLLE 2 frame to me. As far as I know the current generation of MOLLE (gen 4 as you say) doesn't use it or any external frame. I'm not all that up to date on MOLLE though.
It is the molle 2 system but the 4th generation of the frame design, it has just been strengthened and made lighter. The pouches and accessories are all the same. its just the frame which has been improved.
they have also got a new patrol pack design which supersedes the old molle large assault pack. it has external frame with bigger capacity.
http://downeastinc.com/cgi-bin/online/storepro.php
the USMC ILBE made by Arc'Teryx / Propper is an internal frame design
http://www.ilbepack.com
only on issue the the USMC though not the other services as far as I'm aware; they have the Molle 2 syetem in ACU and now MULTICAM
they have also got a new patrol pack design which supersedes the old molle large assault pack. it has external frame with bigger capacity.
http://downeastinc.com/cgi-bin/online/storepro.php
the USMC ILBE made by Arc'Teryx / Propper is an internal frame design
http://www.ilbepack.com
only on issue the the USMC though not the other services as far as I'm aware; they have the Molle 2 syetem in ACU and now MULTICAM
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you can get a forth gen frame from ebay [from U.S.] for as little as 4-6 dollars but they want 40-50 dollars postage !! so that with duty [may not have to pay - depends on how much the ITEM is] and vat @ 20% [charged on total cost = ITEM , DUTY & POSTAGE] could be quite expensive, so on principal I've not bought one because it seems pretty silly to spend a couple of quid on an item then pay over 10 times the amount to get it here!
Altough on the US amazon you can get a box of 20 for 40 dollars [I think] then 50 dollars postage [I think] so could bring the unit price down - but there is still the duty and vat to pay. Then getting it to different people over here.
As far as I can see the duty can be anything from 0 -85 % of the ITEM cost depending on where its coming from and what category the custom folks put it into [anything below £9 duty is waived]. then vat on top of all this
all these charges has kinda put me off
Altough on the US amazon you can get a box of 20 for 40 dollars [I think] then 50 dollars postage [I think] so could bring the unit price down - but there is still the duty and vat to pay. Then getting it to different people over here.
As far as I can see the duty can be anything from 0 -85 % of the ITEM cost depending on where its coming from and what category the custom folks put it into [anything below £9 duty is waived]. then vat on top of all this
all these charges has kinda put me off
apparently [the one I'm thinking of] is a molle II or Li [?] generation IV frame.
There was a good thread on some US site detailing the differences between each generation [can't find it at the moment]
There was a good thread on some US site detailing the differences between each generation [can't find it at the moment]
Gareth thats wat i am eventually aiming for if i can source the 1606 frame without paying a ridiculous amount for shipping from america!
That's the only thing which stopped me from ordering one! You can always take a hacksw to the standard frame and it does work but isn't that elegant, I am away for a week from saturday but can post some photo's when I gat back.
Colin
Colin
Nice pack; I like the way it turned out. Did you do the fastex mods?
