Adding to my garden

[Nathan-and-delvok]

I've recently found abundance of wild garlic on a spair property being Hardy near rocks. Would I be able to move this to my main garden also would I be better getting roots now or closer to it being in season. Also I've heard other things grow well next to/near, is this true too?

 

[Erbswurst]

I am no specialist in this plant, but generally it is a bit late in the year to do that.
I recommend to count in that the project could fail. I would take with the plants as much soil as possible, let's say a spade deep , a spade wide and two long, plant it in, press the ground to connect it and water it good.

Take care that the ground always stays a bit whet and never falls really dry, but also don't create a swamp there.

It is interdicted to displace wild plants in Germany because usually they live where it's possible and die if they get displaced, generally said.
I wouldn't care if tomorrow will come some caterpillars anyway, I mean the steel version, but generally it's sensible to respect that rule because the reasons for it are true.

So if you do it, just take a bit to try out if it works.

Good luck!

 

[Erbswurst]

I am unsure if I got the translation right.
But I think you can buy the seeds every corner.

 

[lou1661]

https://bushcraftuk.com/community/threads/domesticating-the-wild-garlic.92982/#post-1323350
This post by @British Red is pretty spot on.

 

[Nathan-and-delvok]

I am no specialist in this plant, but generally it is a bit late in the year to do that.
I recommend to count in that the project could fail. I would take with the plants as much soil as possible, let's say a spade deep , a spade wide and two long, plant it in, press the ground to connect it and water it good.

Take care that the ground always stays a bit whet and never falls really dry, but also don't create a swamp there.

It is interdicted to displace wild plants in Germany because usually they live where it's possible and die if they get displaced, generally said.
I wouldn't care if tomorrow will come some caterpillars anyway, I mean the steel version, but generally it's sensible to respect that rule because the reasons for it are true.

So if you do it, just take a bit to try out if it works.

Good luck!

Just wondering do you know what time of year maybe better thanks?

 

[Nathan-and-delvok]

I am unsure if I got the translation right.
But I think you can buy the seeds every corner.

It's the wild ones rather than what's in most seed packs

 

[Erbswurst]

I think best time is early winter.
You never know when they start the next season.

Otherwise I have weeds here that I can displace every month and they just laugh about me!

 

[Nathan-and-delvok]

https://bushcraftuk.com/community/threads/domesticating-the-wild-garlic.92982/#post-1323350
This post by @British Red is pretty spot on.

That helped so much thank you so much

 

[Erbswurst]

So, I asked my brother while he was sitting at the writing desk and I had my morning coffee.
We looked it up, assured to get the right translation and talk about the same plant. Allium Ursinum.

My brother studied agriculture sciences, grows vegetables since decades and since more than 20 years professionally, also on the market very rare herbs, weeds in half culture etc. And he is a passionate hiker on top and sees the weeds in the woods.

We can surely call him a very good specialist for this case.

Early winter wouldn't have been totally nonsense, compared to displacing wild garlic now, what would be wrong, but nevertheless I was wrong.

You should do it like this:

You watch the wild garlic in late spring.
When the wood becomes green the wild garlic doesn't get enough light anymore and pulls in. He disappears into his onion.
Here in Berlin it's around first of June, but could happen a few weeks earlier or later in Britain, you simply need to watch it.

Exactly when it has disappeared you can dig it out and displace it in a similar habitat: He needs moist forest, loves to grow near streams and can also be found under bushes.

You theoretically could store the onions correctly until September and plant it then, but as an amateur you plant it immediately after you digged it out.

Here it grows like weed but, anyway, only in the right habitat, and anyway it is illegal here to displace it and so you should dig out just a few of them to avoid making a real damage.

Around Berlin they grow already where they can do it.

And we assume, but didn't look it up, that it is also illegal to displace wild plants in Britain.

 

[Nathan-and-delvok]

So, I asked my brother while he was sitting at the writing desk and I had my morning coffee.
We looked it up, assured to get the right translation and talk about the same plant. Allium Ursinum.

My brother studied agriculture sciences, grows vegetables since decades and since more than 20 years professionally, also on the market very rare herbs, weeds in half culture etc. And he is a passionate hiker on top and sees the weeds in the woods.

We can surely call him a very good specialist for this case.

Early winter wouldn't have been totally nonsense, compared to displacing wild garlic now, what would be wrong, but nevertheless I was wrong.

You should do it like this:

You watch the wild garlic in late spring.
When the wood becomes green the wild garlic doesn't get enough light anymore and pulls in. He disappears into his onion.
Here in Berlin it's around first of June, but could happen a few weeks earlier or later in Britain, you simply need to watch it.

Exactly when it has disappeared you can dig it out and displace it in a similar habitat: He needs moist forest, loves to grow near streams and can also be found under bushes.

You theoretically could store the onions correctly until September and plant it then, but as an amateur you plant it immediately after you digged it out.

Here it grows like weed but, anyway, only in the right habitat, and anyway it is illegal here to displace it and so you should dig out just a few of them to avoid making a real damage.

Around Berlin they grow already where they can do it.

And we assume, but didn't look it up, that it is also illegal to displace wild plants in Britain.

Oh I'm not taking from places I wouldn't have permission it's what I know it as ransoms garlic, some is at my grans and she'll just get it mowed away, but I have an allotment so I want to transfer

 

[Erbswurst]

I can't tell you anything about British laws about nature protection, but you surely can look them up easily in the internet.

If your neighbour allowes you to kill his wife it stays illegal. It's the same with wild plants that are protected. It doesn't matter, what the landowner talks about them.

I just can tell you how to grow them.
If it is sensible or legal you have to ask someone else. I visited England once in my life decades ago. I don't know if wild garlic is rare there or not.

I just mention that specialists think that wild plants generally should stay where they are. But of course some are so many that it doesn't matter if you accidentally kill them.

Mowing often doesn't kill plants but digging them out. That are different things.

But I don't want to make a science here out of a few pretty usual weeds.

 

[Nathan-and-delvok]

I can't tell you anything about British laws about nature protection, but you surely can look them up easily in the internet.

If your neighbour allowes you to kill his wife it stays illegal. It's the same with wild plants that are protected. It doesn't matter, what the landowner talks about them.

I just can tell you how to grow them.
If it is sensible or legal you have to ask someone else. I visited England once in my life decades ago. I don't know if wild garlic is rare there or not.

I just mention that specialists think that wild plants generally should stay where they are. But of course some are so many that it doesn't matter if you accidentally kill them.

Mowing often doesn't kill plants but digging them out. That are different things.

But I don't want to make a science here out of a few pretty usual weeds.

I know the law in Scotland.cause it's on property that's owned and with the owners permission. I may wait till they're ready to.harvest and clone/regrow them that way, some.free garlic is never bad I won't decimate it of course however being on privet land and owners permission I can do whatever lol