Small Portable Firebox/Stove

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fred gordon

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Well, I feel left out :( Despite being sent by 24 hour post mine has still to arrive. I wonder if we can clain off Parcel Force for failed service delivery. :rolleyes:
 

Silverback

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Sep 29, 2006
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Mine arrived today and I have assembled as per Beech Nut Productions Instructional Video ;) Just come in from a good ole burn and I must say first impressions are good. I thought that one drawback would be the need to regularly feed the stove but not so - the dampers work well and hold the embers for a good length of time before replenishing is required. One design touch I particularly like are the laser cut airhole trees around the base - well pleased and well worth the wait :D
 

Torak

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Oct 4, 2006
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No sign of mine yet, maybe Parcel Force have got us mixed up with Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula, which lies on same latitude as Ireland. Hopefully arrive tomorrow.
 

fred gordon

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Torak said:
No sign of mine yet, maybe Parcel Force have got us mixed up with Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula, which lies on same latitude as Ireland. Hopefully arrive tomorrow.
Don't laugh but I'm sure stranger things have happened :eek:
 

Bardster

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Apr 28, 2005
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Went and picked mine up from the depo after Parcelfarce waited for my wife to pop out and then attempted delivery! Fantastic bit of kit - heavier than expected but this is in fact a good thing as its less likely to warp and buckle from the heat. Went together easily. Looking forward to using it sunday.

Nice one Jon
 

Glen

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No one signed for mine. instead of a stove I have a Parcle Force attempted delivery note :(

Still, if I get up early tomorrow and collect my stove from the depot, it'll help make reasonable kindling ;)
 

scoops_uk

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Feb 6, 2005
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Received my free stove today too.

Interesting to compare the Woodland Edge stove with my original design. First impressions (based solely on an indoor comparision) are:

Unwrapping it was considerably easier than making one :D

It is *much* heavier (1.535Kg without the chimney and grill, compared with the 0.635Kg of my chimneyless version). The the dimensions are near identical other than the width being increased to take the billy can so most of this weight is in the thickness of the steel. I've had warping issues with mine when all buttoned up with a good burn, the thicker steel will definitely cure that. Whether it's thicker than necessary to cure this, I don't know.

Mine is easier to put together and is more 'solid' when assembled. The close fit of my joints might be partly the cause of my warping however. I doubt you could easily carry the Woodland Edge version assembled as I can with mine. On the flip side, the looser joints mean it is easier to do things like remove the top, release the ash etc. Once it's hot it's *very* tricky to remove or replace the top on my version.

The face plates on the Woodland Edge version cannot be adjusted up and down and stay were you put them to regulate airflow. As they are looser they always sit as low as they will go. This means the face cannot be closed, there will always be a gap. The lower plate doesn't seem to do an awful lot. However the looser plates can be easily removed (with a stick if your name's Glen ;) ) for the addition of fuel whereas mine are quite fiddly to remove/adjust because the fit is so snug.

I assume the longer tab on the base plate is to allow it to be pulled out a bit and lowered at a slant to facilitate ash clearing? If so - Nice idea. If it's not, why not try it, it looks like it will work.

Which do I prefer? Mine of course ;) But I would say that wouldn't I, however I hope I have been fair in the comparison.

Scoops
 

Glen

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scoops_uk said:
The face plates on the Woodland Edge version cannot be adjusted up and down and stay were you put them to regulate airflow. As they are looser they always sit as low as they will go. This means the face cannot be closed, there will always be a gap. The lower plate doesn't seem to do an awful lot. However the looser plates can be easily removed (with a stick if your name's Glen ;) ) for the addition of fuel whereas mine are quite fiddly to remove/adjust because the fit is so snug.

Now mines arived I just need to find that special stick ;)

Had a little play, doen't think this was intentional in the design but I figure that you can get some adjustment to the front top plate by putting it on upside down, either resting on the bottom plate or overlapping. That would give 3 variations, that can be changed while hot ( all because of those thoughtful lifting holes ;)

Something that might be worth condidering in future models is putting those lifting holes more centrally heightwise to allow this more easily.

Other slight mods that could easily be made to improve functionality and versatility.

The castellations along the 2 sides : make them just a little shorter It'll be about 1 to 2 mm shorter
Make the back middle catellation slot the same width as the slot that's just below it.
This will enable the the flat top plate to be positioned on top of the springy wire grill without taking anything apart. Shortening the castelations by that mm or 2 will mean that top placed on grill will sit flat with the sides, meaning so a wider range of cooking utensils can be used on it.

Which do I prefer? Mine of course ;) But I would say that wouldn't I, however I hope I have been fair in the comparison.

Seems fair, must addmit I'd probably prefer yours for hiking just beause of that much weight difference. Mind you recalling you opening comment I might change my mind agin if I was to try making one myself ;)

Do you think if we keep throwing good ideas at Woodland Edge they might cut us both free aniversary #3 titanium lightweight versions ;)
 

scoops_uk

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Glen said:
Do you think if we keep throwing good ideas at Woodland Edge they might cut us both free aniversary #3 titanium lightweight versions ;)

I've been pondering titanium, does some trick things colour wise with heat.

Scoops
 

Glen

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scoops_uk said:
I've been pondering titanium, does some trick things colour wise with heat.

Scoops

Not only pretty colours but as pretty patterns as unique per stove as woodgrain.

I really ought to get outside and fix my car before I loose the light but I've played some more.

If you build firebox with grill in place and then drop the top plate on backwards ( 2 side taps fit in back castelations of the side plates ) you'll get a very good idea of how cutting that back castellation wider will allow the top plate to sit on the grill.

I might file mine out and the side castelations tops down a touch anyway as it seems such a good idea with no drawbacks, how easy is this stuff to file? I had the impression from your original making/design thread that that working with this material is quite hard.
 

fred gordon

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Now I am totally cheesed off. Stove still not arrived :twak: Waited in all morning and just rang Parcel Force to complain. Closed!!!!!!! Website says its in Aberdeen Depot, but it was there yesterday. What do I think of Parcel Posts 24 hour service :nutkick:Thank god I can let steam off with smiles
 

scoops_uk

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Feb 6, 2005
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Jurassic Coast
Glen said:
I might file mine out and the side castelations tops down a touch anyway as it seems such a good idea with no drawbacks, how easy is this stuff to file? I had the impression from your original making/design thread that that working with this material is quite hard.

It's easy enough to file as long as it's held securely and your file is new/sharp. Lots of filing will wear the file down faster than a less hard material. So if you're doing lots of filing...

Scoops
 

mayfly

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May 25, 2005
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Got mine and have thoroughly satisfied my pyromaniac habit with it most of the afternoon - great new toy :)

Just wanted to say thanks to Beech Nut for sorting this. That video was a big help as well. :You_Rock_
 

Torak

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Oct 4, 2006
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ggfh666 said:
The sea has been a little rough lately, so don't lose hope;)

Nope not the sea-seemingly the stove has been sitting in the depot since Friday morning. Hopefully Woodland Edge or Jon can claim a refund on the shipping for this one.
 

Silverback

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Sep 29, 2006
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fred gordon said:
Now I am totally cheesed off. Stove still not arrived :twak: Waited in all morning and just rang Parcel Force to complain. Closed!!!!!!! Website says its in Aberdeen Depot, but it was there yesterday. What do I think of Parcel Posts 24 hour service :nutkick:Thank god I can let steam off with smiles
I have had extensive dealings with Parcelforce over the years and now believe they should spell their name with a silent 'P'
:rolleyes:
 

fred gordon

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Torak said:
Nope not the sea-seemingly the stove has been sitting in the depot since Friday morning. Hopefully Woodland Edge or Jon can claim a refund on the shipping for this one.
Good point. No blame whatsoever on Woodland Edge or Jon but we didn't get what we paid for. Can we claim compensation? :confused:
 

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