Problem is Toddy, the site has 5000 members and it does have a classifieds section, which is by definition commercial. There is nothing to stop people selling at "mates rates" if they want to, but you cant ask it of all the members. If you are going to have sales at all, then sales need to be sales. They shouldn't be interfered with and it should be up to the buyer to make thier own judgement as to the worth of an item and vote with thier feet if they dont like the price - not the community to apply pressure or intimidation to an individual to drop thier prices. Red is as generous a man as you could meet, but it is niether fair or reasonable to expect everyone to be so benevolent. Ethical issue aside, many people simply cant afford to be. There is no crime at all in asking for a nearly new price for an unused item and people should not be made to feel uncomfortable about doing so. If we allow people to post alternative cheaper sources in sales threads, then we will be sanctioning the application of community pressure onto the seller. That cant be right.