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The 'pedestrians' chose to be there. You can hardly equate them to bystanders at the side of a road. Where do you draw the line at what is 'too' risky? To my mind, as long as you're not hurting anyone else (who hasn't explicitly agreed to be implemented in the risk) then what's the problem?

Even this is less black and white than you might think though... I've partaken of risky activities for years. I've done a lot of rock climbing, general mountaineering and winter mountaineering and winter climbing and I know very well there are teams of committed rescue volunteers ready and prepared to put themselves in danger to rescue people like me who might get into trouble. Am I a bad person because I commit myself to these risks without having the explicit agreement from the individuals who would be involved in any rescue? Ask any mountain rescue team member their opinion on the subject and I'm sure they'll tell you they believe wholeheartedly in people's right to put themselves at risk in the mountains by pursuing personal goals such as rock climbing, hiking or other activities that can be used to better oneself. (I'm separating calculated risk here from plain stupidity - walking into the mountains in bad weather with inadequate clothing and knowledge isn't risky, it's stupid).

The Australian chap in the fourth post (who spent a good amount of time in the UK actually) is an interesting case in point. A later go on the 'death swing' saw him catch his 'chute round his feet. He plummeted to the ground and walked away scot free. Unfortunately he has been involved in a base jumping accident recently that left him in a coma for two weeks. He's come out of it now and his fight back to recovery is indicative of his outlook on life and should be an inspiration to all.

It almost seems churlish to point out any of the endless number of improvements and achievements of mankind that only came about because people were prepared to take risks. In fact what would be more interesting is to try and think of any achievements that didn't involve some kind of risk (whether physical or emotional in the form of being laughed at).

I believe in the UK we've developed a culture of aversion to risk. We teach it to our children at home and at school - we tell them it's important to avoid risk and failure at all costs. I think it's a key reason as to why the current generations have become so apathetic (I can think of other reasons too mind you). Fear of failure, and the ridicule dished out when it occurs (often by the media), is why we've lost much of our entrepreneurial streak and a key reason as to why our sports teams feel under too much pressure to perform.

Even spending time on the continent it's easy to see how they are much more at home with risk and failure... having a go at something and failing doesn't have the negative connotation it does here - you get respect for at least having a go. I've noticed walking through the Alps that they are much more at home with physical risk too. I spent time in India last year, and they're concept of risk is in another league again (and frankly I think they maybe take it too far!)

Anyway, rant over. I just got a bit riled seeing the video of the Aussie chap knowing what had recently happened to him.
 
Has the world ever been boring ?.................I guess we live on different planets ;)

I suppose you're right. I'm guessing the world I live in is a bit more boring than it is for those two chaps though! I know I'll never experience that thrill, I'm just glad they've got the sack to decide they can do it and film it for the likes of me to watch. I find it all inspiring!
 
The 'pedestrians' chose to be there. You can hardly equate them to bystanders at the side of a road. Where do you draw the line at what is 'too' risky? To my mind, as long as you're not hurting anyone else (who hasn't explicitly agreed to be implemented in the risk) then what's the problem?

Even this is less black and white than you might think though... I've partaken of risky activities for years. I've done a lot of rock climbing, general mountaineering and winter mountaineering and winter climbing and I know very well there are teams of committed rescue volunteers ready and prepared to put themselves in danger to rescue people like me who might get into trouble. Am I a bad person because I commit myself to these risks without having the explicit agreement from the individuals who would be involved in any rescue? Ask any mountain rescue team member their opinion on the subject and I'm sure they'll tell you they believe wholeheartedly in people's right to put themselves at risk in the mountains by pursuing personal goals such as rock climbing, hiking or other activities that can be used to better oneself. (I'm separating calculated risk here from plain stupidity - walking into the mountains in bad weather with inadequate clothing and knowledge isn't risky, it's stupid).

The Australian chap in the fourth post (who spent a good amount of time in the UK actually) is an interesting case in point. A later go on the 'death swing' saw him catch his 'chute round his feet. He plummeted to the ground and walked away scot free. Unfortunately he has been involved in a base jumping accident recently that left him in a coma for two weeks. He's come out of it now and his fight back to recovery is indicative of his outlook on life and should be an inspiration to all.

It almost seems churlish to point out any of the endless number of improvements and achievements of mankind that only came about because people were prepared to take risks. In fact what would be more interesting is to try and think of any achievements that didn't involve some kind of risk (whether physical or emotional in the form of being laughed at).

I believe in the UK we've developed a culture of aversion to risk. We teach it to our children at home and at school - we tell them it's important to avoid risk and failure at all costs. I think it's a key reason as to why the current generations have become so apathetic (I can think of other reasons too mind you). Fear of failure, and the ridicule dished out when it occurs (often by the media), is why we've lost much of our entrepreneurial streak and a key reason as to why our sports teams feel under too much pressure to perform.

Even spending time on the continent it's easy to see how they are much more at home with risk and failure... having a go at something and failing doesn't have the negative connotation it does here - you get respect for at least having a go. I've noticed walking through the Alps that they are much more at home with physical risk too. I spent time in India last year, and they're concept of risk is in another league again (and frankly I think they maybe take it too far!)

Anyway, rant over. I just got a bit riled seeing the video of the Aussie chap knowing what had recently happened to him.
I'm totally reading this whilst dri........arrrgh....
 
I would have probably have given it a shot myself when i was younger but now having a wife and kids to look after i think i will give it a miss .

Craig...........
 
More luck than judgement I'd say.................... & too much money & a death wish. :D

Do you honestly think these guys just jump off the side of a mountain and say its ok i will make it , these people that do this kind of thing scout their lines for weeks before a flight like that .
And whats money got to with it ? and death wish i dont think so they want to live so they can do it again


Jason
 
We all live in the same world & it is what we make of it but if you don't feel the need to risk your life to enhance your existance then you probably have a more fulfilled life than those that do

I totally disagree with that. It's a massively sweeping statement and more fulfilled by who's judgement?



........ Yep............

Then you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
 

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