When younger...

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It's a beautiful day here :D and I'm taking the elderlies shopping :sigh:
I think I'll go the long way round through the lane paths to the lock up for the car though :) I fancy elderflower fritters, and there's red clover out for tea, I can forage on the way.

cheers,
M
 
Ha ha, yeah! We had some woods on the edge of the village, used to camp out and get up early and head to the village to *pinch a bottle of milk from someone's doorstep and boil it up on the fire.
Happy days.

*only from people we didn't like.
 
We used to camp on the side of Old Sarum, right next to a gas works station! haha idiots, every now and then we had fires if anyone had remembered to being something to eat, and on Danebury hill fort and Figsbury rings?.........seems we had a thing for ancient sites? it made the cider taste better, haha I'm a proper hypocrite now and can't stand people camping there, hahaha I'm only 32 and already a curmudgeon!
 
This sounds pretty similar to what I do at present, except I keep my precious Docs clean and use Timberlands! :P Couple of knives and axes, some sour mash and my pipe, sorted!
 
We used to camp with not a lot more than a pack of hot dogs and buns for the weekend, a .177, knives, tins of beans, baccy and booze and an old pup tent. Maybe a fishing rod or just hobo kit. I think youth sees you through cold nights and hunger better somehow!
 
My usual haunt was a wee island up Benlister Burn. Stepping stones if the river was low, trews and shoes off and a wade if it was higher. Wooded island with a clearing for camp - I'd camp there again if I happed to be passing.

Getting the wee dirtbike let me stretch out a bit and most of my camping at the early highschool age was done in the valleys and hills covered by the forestry tracks around the south end of the island. Sometimes with company as a few of the other kids had bikes too, most often still on my todd.

Then I joined a youth group - the Junior Moutain Rescue - and it was climbing trips in the summer, ice axe training in the winter, survival stuff, orienteering.......
....ropework/rescue demonstrations off the ramparts and towers of Brodick Castle. Used to practice so hard for those that the techiques were all down pat.
We played bodies for proper MR exercises too. Hunkered down in the heather awaiting "rescue" - sneaking peeks, listening to the radio chatter at whisper volume and on a couple of occassions a ten minute ride home in the SeaKing.
...and marshalled the Goatfell race every year(or at least that was the theory. Was more like child slave labour. Wonder who hauls up water these days).

Then a schoolpal decided to camp out for the whole school holidays when we were fifteen. Joined him for most of it and if I were going to get rose tinted it'd be about that six weeks. :)

....but I'm not the rose-tinted type really. Here we are 25 years later and nothing's changed. The world is still a beautiful place and never fails to impress. :D I haven't even ventured very far afield - most of my camping these days is done only ten miles or so from where all the time above was spent and on a clear day I can see old campsites.

Still love it.
:)
 
Yes, those were the days

I was showing off my new tent to Dad. (who after all, paid for it)

He was quite pleased at the comfort. he told he he used to stay in a pup tent so low you couldnt sit up, no groundsheet and blankets for bedding.

I reassured him it wasnt like that nowadays.

I may get him out with me at this rate
 
depending on where where going and if we have a car, i sometimes take me chainsaw :)

its the youth of today...


lol Josh by the time we was mid teens it was air rifles and explosives
coal dust and Diesel Land mine to try and warn off a PyKEY who set fire to my mates German army Doss bag left in a basha

luckly he never found it and we learned from the test detonation that a biscuit tin full was a little on the excessive side as a warning shot
clues could be observed scattered round the Scaffold pole tripod we used to suspend a concrete block above the pressure plate was 20ft away and bent no block could be found and My mates Dad wasnt impressed after telling us to fill the 6ft smoking crater in that we would have to dig another 6ft hole to get the dirt from ( he did show a little concern for our well being at first as he ran down the field seeing us rolling about the ground but it evaporated quick once he realised we where laughing .

ATB

Duncan
 
Without wishing to urinate on anyone's bonfire (no pun intended), the kind of camp described by the OP is exactly the sort of thing we spend a lot of time on this forum complaining about. Big bonfires, loads of noise, too much alcohol, a lot of mess, probably little in the way of clearing up. We have also mentioned in this thread, breaking the law through poaching and the theft of milk, illegal use of explosives and probably underage use of air weapons.

So, how can we criticise the thoughtless antics of people who behave like that in the countryside now when we appear to glorify it on our own forum? We're not setting a great example, are we?

Discuss.
 
I was a good boy, Sout's then hill walker...not much wood in Snowdonia (in fact a fire never crossed my mind IIRC) but I'll share others guilt and am now going out to the garden where I shall commit an act of self flagellation then burn the blooded Hazel rods in the BBQ.
 
Without wishing to urinate on anyone's bonfire (no pun intended), the kind of camp described by the OP is exactly the sort of thing we spend a lot of time on this forum complaining about. Big bonfires, loads of noise, too much alcohol, a lot of mess, probably little in the way of clearing up. We have also mentioned in this thread, breaking the law through poaching and the theft of milk, illegal use of explosives and probably underage use of air weapons.

So, how can we criticise the thoughtless antics of people who behave like that in the countryside now when we appear to glorify it on our own forum? We're not setting a great example, are we?

Discuss.

Umm, I did my camping in Canada where there was a plethora of wood and we did clean up after. My first airgun was given to me when I was about 10 at Christmas, there were no age restrictions. We made some noise but I don't think there was anyone around to bother. I can't speak for others but I'll sleep soundly tonight with a clear consience! Maybe I should have pointed out I'm Canadian so it didn't sound like I was doing illegal things.
 
Well Mikey P.

In having such a rebellious streak in my youth and doing the things I did, I believe it has taught me how to appreciate some things.

Btw, did I say we left the place in a mess?
Stealing produce? Yep, but not to the detriment of the gardens.

Stealing milk?
Now and again but usually the milk van would just give us it as some of us actually did the round.

Like to think that my upbringing allowed me to understand people before judging.

Hopefully those who know and have met me will know that I try to observe the ethos of common sense in the main.

I apologise for being a youth when younger.

Cheers,
Tom.
 
My aim was not to point the finger at anyone in particular but to comment on the fact that, whilst we are quick to condemn anti-social behaviour in the countryside now, we are effectively glorifying similar behaviour in our youth. Yes, we may have 'learnt from our experiences' and, at the time, not have thought that what we were doing would have any detrimental affect on the environment or other people, but then the same argument could be made for anyone who trashes areas of the countryside and acts in a noisy and 'perceived-to-be-threatening' manner.

I don't live in a glass house and I am guilty of some of the things we have mentioned above. So, on that level, I cannot claim any moral high ground. However, I'm actually quite ashamed of my behaviour and I wish I hadn't done it.

So, are we being hypocritical when we (BCUK forum members) reminisce about how great it was to get drunk in the woods with a big fire and a ghetto blaster, and then comment unfavourably when the current 'youth' do the same? Or is that 'different' in some way?
 
So, are we being hypocritical when we (BCUK forum members) reminisce about how great it was to get drunk in the woods with a big fire and a ghetto blaster, and then comment unfavourably when the current 'youth' do the same? Or is that 'different' in some way?

If done responsibly, not trashing an area, not indiscriminately damaging trees, ground or sites, not disturbing the locals, leaving no sign when they're done; why shouldn't they ?

Not my personal choice favourite choice for spending an evening, but then I'm quieter by nature :p I'm not going to disparage others for it though.

M
 
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Didn't mean to snipe Mikey,I know you weren't being personal.

Guess I was saying it's part of growing up.

Mind you it was when a teen and our places were out of the way.



Tom.
 
Sorry Mikey, I'm not making any excuses for what I did as a teenager. I didn't indulge in anti-social behaviour,...... I got into mischief, I experimented, explored, created & learned my limits....I'll just add that I never bad mouthed, physically threatened or attacked anyone who "intervined" or told us to clear off. It wouldn't have entered my mind........it might do nowadays though!
 
"get drunk in the woods with a big fire and a ghetto blaster" These days its more a glass of wine by a small fire with Radio 4 on in the background :)
 
Sorry Mikey, I'm not making any excuses for what I did as a teenager. I didn't indulge in anti-social behaviour,...... I got into mischief, I experimented, explored, created & learned my limits....I'll just add that I never bad mouthed, physically threatened or attacked anyone who "intervined" or told us to clear off. It wouldn't have entered my mind........it might do nowadays though!

No worries!

So, the logical next question is: have young people's attitudes and respect to others altered or has easy transport and access to the countryside led to more 'undesirables' (if I am allowed to use that term) being there?

Most of the younger people I know are relatively responsible and - short of the occasional mistake, which we have all done - they are great. Is there a lack of guidance from us older folks? Do we not engage as mush as we use to or has there been sociological change?
 

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