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Ash Blue

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Thanks for the replies so far. I really would like the NCFE qualifaction in bushcraft leadership.. But £3000?? Impossible :( Is there any funding like there would be in college. I have 6 NCFE's that were funded by an academic online school. I'll definitly look into the middlewood meet too.
 

Tengu

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Jan 10, 2006
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I think your problem is you are too specialised. Theres also a lot of competition in IT, and unless you really love computers...its not worth it.

Theres also a lot of competition in Bushcraft instructing.

Have you thought about volenteering for the scouts? Or joining the TA? Not quite the same thing but you will learn stuff, have fun, and above all, make contacts.
 

mountainm

Bushcrafter through and through
Jan 12, 2011
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Thanks for the replies so far. I really would like the NCFE qualifaction in bushcraft leadership.. But £3000?? Impossible :( Is there any funding like there would be in college. I have 6 NCFE's that were funded by an academic online school. I'll definitly look into the middlewood meet too.

£3k is not impossible if you wish to make this your life's career. It does mean you'll have to go without for a bit, save up, work 2 jobs, sell some stuff etc. Have a look at Amazons mechanical turk for some piece rate work. Get in touch with these guys http://www.princes-trust.org.uk/

They offer development awards to help with training
http://www.princes-trust.org.uk/need_help/grants/development_awards.aspx
 
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resnikov

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Ash Blue said:
I've always seen the industrial world as corrupt and forcefully covered in concrete. I have no money and it's been my dream since 2006 to be a bushcraft teacher.

Maybe you just need to get your head out the clouds and face reality.

I would love to work in Bushcraft style job but have bills to pay and real life commitments, as do most people on here. A lucky few do get to do what we do for a hobby as a real bill paying job and good on them for doing that. To get that far I expect they had to do quite a few jobs they did not enjoy for companies they did not like. That’s just a fact of life.

Not to sound callus but if you have 47 ICT qualifications most companies would snap you up (I know I work in IT with over 10 years experience and only 1 IT qualification an I'm finding it hard to find a new job) your either going for the wrong jobs, selling yourself wrong or expecting too much out of the jobs that are out there.

As has been said by others on here, volunteer for the Scouts, wild life trust or similar to gain experience.

Also remember that even if you do save up the money , then get accepted on a course and pass it, it doesn’t mean there is a job at the end of it.



Mods if I have steped over the line with this I’m sorry.
 
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scottishwolf

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Oct 22, 2006
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Go to uni and get a degree in countryside and environmental management. That's what I did, it gives you a far deeper understanding of the countryide than just bushcrafting. From how the land came to be how it is, countryside history, biology, geology, ecology. Opens up a whole lot of jobs in the outdoors sector from being a ranger to a countrside manager to wildlife protection to ecology work.
 

mountainm

Bushcrafter through and through
Jan 12, 2011
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Resnikov, I was not looking for advice on accepting what you think life is about. There are other ways around things other than working a rubbish job. If you read my post you'll see that I was asking for assistance in bushcraft, not getting a job (that's my worry that I wasn;t looking for advice in).

I'm looking into starting a bushcraft leadership course in september. I'm smart enough to find other ways to do things. I moved to malta when I was 18 and worked a very good job. This is not what I need advice with.

All Resnikov was saying is that it's a means to an end - if you really really really want to do bushcraft - then working a job you don't like to save up the 3k for the instructors course is well worth the minor inconvenience - it's a means to an end. But sounds like you've got that all sorted anyway. Good luck. I find the right attitude goes a long way these days.
 

Shewie

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I'm looking into starting a bushcraft leadership course in september. I'm smart enough to find other ways to do things. I moved to malta when I was 18 and worked a very good job. This is not what I need advice with.

Is that with Woodcraft Ash ? I got a place on the interviews a couple of years ago but had to pull out in the end due to work commitments, travelling down south every month was a logistical nightmare too. The crux of the interview was to show you could confidently share your knowledge in a way that was understandable and beneficial to prospective students, rather than just rambling on in a boring an unincentive way. I think they were trying to find out if we were people people or just bookworms :)

My plan was to stay in my IT job and make the journey down there once a month, taking holidays and lieu time to make it fit, in reality that was impossible. It was a shame but in the current climate I had to make the choice to get my head down and just see how things pan out in the future.

Good luck with whatever you end up doing and don't give up the dream.
 

coln18

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Aug 10, 2009
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I second what Rich says, if you believe in something enough and dont loose focus you will always find a way to do it, you are doing the right thing and i credit you for asking around, you dont ask you wont get and all that, good luck in your future, just keep your head down mate and believe in yourself and dont let others who would put you down, put you off.

Also i have done a few Raymando Mears courses over the last few years and i know that on every course they have a apprentice working for them, i think they take a batch on every year, why not give woodlore a phone...

All the best

Col
 
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Everything Mac

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Nov 30, 2009
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Resnikov, I was not looking for advice on accepting what you think life is about. There are other ways around things other than working a rubbish job. If you read my post you'll see that I was asking for assistance in bushcraft, not getting a job (that's my worry that I wasn't looking for advice in).

I'm looking into starting a bushcraft leadership course in september. I'm smart enough to find other ways to do things. I moved to malta when I was 18 and worked a very good job. This is not what I need advice with.

With all due respect mate if it wasn't an issue then why bring it up at all?

The above advice is all pretty good. Though it seems to me that anyone with a slight interest in bushcraft suddenly becomes an expert over night and wants to be a teacher.

Not to p*ss on you parade but what makes you think you can do it?

all the best
Andy
 
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coln18

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Aug 10, 2009
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With all due respect mate if it wasn't an issue then why bring it up at all?

The above advice is all pretty good.

all the best
Andy

Andy either your a drunken blacksmith or an agony aunt, you cant be both mate. LOL.

If your an agony aunt, well theres these 2 sisters i like, but my budgie likes the blonde one, what should i do...

Col
 

Everything Mac

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Nov 30, 2009
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Andy either your a drunken blacksmith or an agony aunt, you cant be both mate. LOL.

If your an agony aunt, well theres these 2 sisters i like, but my budgie likes the blonde one, what should i do...

Col

just having a bad day.

but a pint sounds like a good idea.
 

Everything Mac

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Nov 30, 2009
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Well Mac I don't have to explain myself to you. So unless you have something useful to say, then i'm not in the slightest interested. It isn't "overnight". The course is a whole year. I'm asking for usefull advice and the chance for connections which benefit us both eventually, not for discouragment from someone I don't know and who doesn't know me, ok? So with all due respect, stop replying unless it relates to what I'm asking.

Thanks to everyone else with encouragment. Much appreciated!

Well now you see that's where you are wrong mate.

I'm in a very similar position to you and I'm not all that much older (23) - I wasn't trying to be discouraging or rude. And no you don't have to explain yourself to me. I wasn't asking you to, merely commenting on a fact that I have noticed in the last few years.

Now there is no need to get defensive or frankly rude as that last post come across simply for that sake of it.

You are asking for advice for becoming a teacher yet my first impression of you is to be honest not a good one. And yet you want me to believe you want to be a teacher despite not hinting at what experience you may or may not have and apparently lacking decent communication skills? - do you not think that this would be a pretty fundamental skill to have should you want to be a teacher? - if you get shirty to some guy over the internet at a passing comment - how are you going to deal with a wee scrote who is useless at fire lighting? that's different I hear you cry! is it?


What are you good at? What needs improving? Are you knowledgeable about mushrooms? different tinders and where they can be found? different woods and their uses?

you don't have to explain yourself to anybody you made that clear enough - but perhaps if you were to be kind enough to give the forum a little more information, we could help give you the advice you need.

Andy
 

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