Guyot Water Bottle "Pimping"

[Revsharky]

Hi Flix
Thanks for the post....
Which of the Guyot bottles is that?
Any chance you could tell me some dimensions?
1. Of the bottle on its own
2. of the Mug
3. Of the bottle when placed in the mug
4. Of the bottle with coffee filter and lid screwed on together

Many thanks I'm just trying to work out if this will fit in my current bottle holder!

 

[helixpteron]

Here's a neat, simple and cheap method of making a detachable handle for the Guyot Bottle, I like it!

The Condor Pouch is an interesting alternative to the Maxpedition models and has some worthy differences.

There's also a test of the Spark Lite Fire Starting Kit, using the new aluminium bodied Spark Lite to ignite the Tinder Quick Fire Tabs.

 

[Stuart69]

Here's a neat, simple and cheap method of making a detachable handle for the Guyot Bottle

Thanks for posting that I made one of these today for mine. It's a really simple design that just works

 

[nige7whit]

i use the 58 setup too to get around hot mug i either wait for it to cool a little or use a second mug boil the water and meal in the mug poor water into another 58 style mug plastic or metal doesnt matter for brew then use the metal one to tip my meal into. I like to carry 2 58 set ups anyway cause im always thirsty and like to take plenty of water

In the good old days, (pre-kevlar) you could have used your steel helmet to boil the water in, over an open fire.

 

[Mastino]

In the good old days, (pre-kevlar) you could have used your steel helmet to boil the water in, over an open fire.

Just to find out that it would lose it's temper and become pretty much useless... as if they were

 

[helixpteron]

Funnily enough, there's a guy on the Packraft forum that wants a titanium paddling helmet with removable padding and straps to facilitate its use as a kettle/cook pot.

And no, its not me!

Someone on W&SS actually bought an old WW2 era helmet and used it in this 'multi-role' mode.

 

[Mastino]

Alternative? http://www.homeofmillican.com/newproduct.aspx?ProductStyleID=10&CategoryID=5

 

[Lurch]

Alternative? http://www.homeofmillican.com/newproduct.aspx?ProductStyleID=10&CategoryID=5

I spoke to those guys about stocking their stuff ages ago but kinda forgot about it.

 

[Twodogs]

I wonder if you could use one of these bottles as a hot water bottle in the winter ,
fill with hot water then put it in a sock kept in your sleeping bag just for that reason .....
Twoflogs

 

[DavidJT]

I wonder if you could use one of these bottles as a hot water bottle in the winter ,
fill with hot water then put it in a sock kept in your sleeping bag just for that reason .....
Twoflogs

Why not, I've done it with a Sigg bottle lots of times. You ALS have clean water ready for breakfast.

 

[phill_ue]

Versatility. You are going to struggle boiling water over an open fire with 95 pat water bottler and mug. The attachments for nalgene bottles make this very versatile. I love the coffee filter idea for either use as a water pre-filter or as a coffe filter. Great idea. I wonder also if this could be used "kelly kettle style" with a hobo-stove setup?

Rubbish! It's simple, you just don't create a blazing fire and make a small brew fire. A few small nails make a good trivet to put you mug on and a small star fire underneath will be adequate to boil water. I start to get the feeling you haven't tried this at all and yet post on things as if you are the leading authority! Come on Martyn, people have been using metal mugs for years, if they didn't work then they would have figured that out by now!

On the other hand, the Olicamp style stainless mugs can be drunk out of without your lip being severely burnt, but the black metal mug posted above is a nightmare without the plastic lip guard which often gets melted as it is easily forgotten about. Also, the lip guard isn't a perfect seal around the mug and I found that a small trickle of tea would pour out underneath the seal and drip all over my shirt! No issues like that with the newer Crusader mug though. The black NATO bottle is a brilliant design but some people cannot get over the plastic taste. The metal bottle won't suffer from this, but I do have a stainless bottle made for US Rangers which I expect this model of bottle is based on, and it does rust! Somehow, I can't think that would be good for the digestion so don't bother using it and have gone back to plastic Nalgene and NATO bottles.

Those add ons are really good though, inspirational.

 

[Martyn]

Rubbish! It's simple, you just don't create a blazing fire and make a small brew fire. A few small nails make a good trivet to put you mug on and a small star fire underneath will be adequate to boil water. I start to get the feeling you haven't tried this at all and yet post on things as if you are the leading authority! Come on Martyn, people have been using metal mugs for years, if they didn't work then they would have figured that out by now!

Hey, rubbish yourself mate, I didnt say it was impossible, just that it's a PITA. I've tried it and I prefer a billy, but if you're happy making your rabbit stew in a flippin mug, you crack on.

...and I'm getting the feeling you're just trolling around for a fight.

 

[phill_ue]

Hey, rubbish yourself mate, I didnt say it was impossible, just that it's a PITA. I've tried it and I prefer a billy, but if you're happy making your rabbit stew in a flippin mug, you crack on.

...and I'm getting the feeling you're just trolling for a fight.

Not at all, but I have used a metal mug for many years and haven't had half of the problems you talk about. I just think you may be doing it wrong!

 

[phill_ue]

And besides, are you thinking of making a rabbit stew in a metal water bottle?

 

[Martyn]

Sorry Phil, I'm not playing mate.

 

[phill_ue]

Sorry Phil, I'm not playing mate.

Not playing what? You'll not learn unless you find out what you are doing wrong. I am sure you haven't got the full use out of your metal mug if you are stating the problems you are having that others don't seem to be having. I am constantly learning by going out and trying new things, and taking the advice of others. I'm no expert, but a lot of the niff naff and trivia gear can be used in different ways and the best way found quite easily.

For instance, I started off with those pot hangers like Mears uses and then moved on to a basic tripod. I thought this would be the best, but then found out about another method whereby you make a bipod and rest a log onto that over the fire. Tie a cord onto the log and then a hook on the other end to hang your billy off and you can adjust the height of the pot infinitely by turning the log and turning it into a winch of sorts.

I'm constantly looking for new ways to do things, maybe some of your methods need tweaking so that you can get the most out of your kit.

 

[Jakata]

I think it probably comes down to good old fashioned personal choice

Back on topic, some great ideas in the thread, a question though, is the Nalgene type a pretty standard size? If I was to look for things that fit Nalgene would they fit the Guyot? I would like to add a few bits and bobs to it for certain needs, a coffee filter would be a nice luxury for example.

 

[Martyn]

Back on topic, some great ideas in the thread, a question though, is the Nalgene type a pretty standard size? If I was to look for things that fit Nalgene would they fit the Guyot? I would like to add a few bits and bobs to it for certain needs, a coffee filter would be a nice luxury for example.

I took delivery of one of these Guyot bottles about a week ago - I havent had chance to do this mod to it yet but I will. The bottle looks very well made. I read somewhere about the coffee filter things being a not so good fit on the lexan nalgene bottles and a better fit on these metal bottles. Maybe that means that the fit is a bit different and other nalgene accessories might not fit so well, I dunno. I dont own any accessories to try it I'm afraid.

 

[helixpteron]

The JetBoil Cargo Cozy fits the Guyot, I got the cozy to use with my first Guyot which is being reconfigured to a volcano kettle, based on a link posted by Flix.

The JetBoil Cargo Cozy will help the boiling time, retain water temperature, and has a handle which will make pouring easier.

I'll post a pic of it on the Guyot this week.

 

[Wayland]

Did anyone have any luck finding one of those GSI H2jO filters in the UK or even a company that ships them to the UK for less than an arm and a leg?