IPK Shelter practising

[Globetrotter.uk]

I brought one of those Individual Protection Kits and decided to get my son to have ago at making a shelter.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=13233704809

 

[Toddy]

I don't want to sign up for Facebook so can't see the video............however, I have two of these IPK's........what did you think of it? Does it seem to be a good thing?

cheers,
Toddy

 

[bushscout1]

That's a quality video.

I love the repeated references to "don't you dare put that on the Bushcraft Forums".

By the way - what was the distraction in the background?

 

[mick miller]

Just a cautionary note, IPK kits are lead coated to the best of my knowledge so perhaps safest to ensure hands are washed before eating after handling these kits?

 

[w00dsmoke]

Just a cautionary note, IPK kits are lead coated to the best of my knowledge so perhaps safest to ensure hands are washed before eating after handling these kits?

to the best of my knowledge that's an urban myth. They were intended as battlefield trench covers to allow soldiers to build a fighting survivable trench with several feet of overhead cover of earth. Hence no need for lead and if there was lead in it it would be too heavy for soldiers to carry and the amount of lead need for any reasonable protection would be huge and you wouldn't be able to carry it if there was lead.

There were trials at Porton down with (where the charcoal nbc suits were developed), with fabric impregnated with soap flakes, this would neutralise many chemical threats troops faced (which was a very good idea), but I've never heard of lead before used in such a context.

WS

 

[Toddy]

Mick you keep raising this lead theory and it keeps getting shot down.

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28912&highlight=lead

Where did you hear of it?
I know of no process of lead fabric coating that is used for anything but battery and catalytic processes.

If the tarps are used as intended, as tarps/ covers, then why would this be an issue even if they were lead coated ?

cheers,
Toddy

 

[spamel]

I feel the lead myth is just that, a myth. Impregnating a fabric with lead would have no benefits whatsoever when you are piling a foot or more of earth on top of it. Plus, I have handled many IPK sheets whilst making Overhead Protection in trench systems and if there was lead involved I could expect to have a residue visible on my hands. I never did and was never told to wash my hands after using one, which I'm sure I would have been if there was lead involved. The last thing wanted after a nuclear strike is that your remaining healthy blokes start deteriorating due to lead poisoning!

 

[Globetrotter.uk]

That's a quality video.

I love the repeated references to "don't you dare put that on the Bushcraft Forums".

By the way - what was the distraction in the background?

No distraction, I was jst trying not to talk on the video and get him to work.

 

[Mini Macgyver]

very funny i like it where he said don't put this on bushcraft uk

 

[redandshane]

I have just had fantastic use of an IPK kit used the tarp bit to making a cooking/ food prep and storage shelter just whacked up four suitablee poles from thinned wood and bound at the corners and down as guy lines
and used some of the gurt big pegs for securing another tarp in last nights high winds-they are really good for this, but a tad heavy if backpacing which i was not this weekend
This was with group I was taking so for anyone else doing that kind of stuff they are great value and worth getting
I must admit due to the lead talk I didnt use the rainwater collected on the top of the shelter for drinking or washing which i normally would not hesitate to do
Has anyone got a definitive answer surely there must be some specs somewhere?

 

[malcolmc]

... Has anyone got a definitive answer surely there must be some specs somewhere?

Just tried a lead paint tester on both sides of one of my IPK sheets; result no lead detected.

Hope that helps.

 

[redandshane]

That will do for me Thanks
Malcolmc-mythbuster!

 

[Toddy]

Damn that was smart I never even thought of trying that one.

Thanks, :You_Rock_

cheers,
Toddy

 

[Globetrotter.uk]

Right got the single size tarp made from the IPK, firstly I made the center loop to big, secondly the tarp is not very easy to fold. Stiff fabric but cheap. Still it will do for my son or misses

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/beadsnbuckles/100_1492.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/beadsnbuckles/100_1494.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/beadsnbuckles/100_1482.jpg

 

[spamel]

Right got the single size tarp made from the IPK, firstly I made the center loop to big, secondly the tarp is not very easy to fold. Stiff fabric but cheap. Still it will do for my son or misses

I IMG tagged the pictures so that they can be seen, looks like a damned fair sized tarp to me!

 

[Globetrotter.uk]

Cheers, wondered why they were not showing

 

[spamel]

You put url in the square brackets instead of img! Try it!

 

[redandshane]

Mighty fine job with tarp
No lead?
but I cant believe you wear your boots in hammock even for a demo

Only jealous cant wait for the weekend

 

[Globetrotter.uk]

If I had taken off my boots I think the local squirrel population would have been instantly culled.

 

[loz.]

I have handled many IPK sheets whilst making Overhead Protection in trench systems and if there was lead involved I could expect to have a residue visible on my hands.

Same here,

The only danger involved when i was using them, was the obligatory landrover test - and i always seemed to get picked to be in the firetrench at the time !